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#1 Andrew Walker

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Posted 17 July 2007 - 03:39 PM

The timelapse was mostly shot using a Canon 20D but the opening shot of LA was shot with an HVX.

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The music video was shot about a little over a month ago. I shot, directed and edited it together. I also did the eye effects in Shake. It was fun to shoot but dealing with the band afterwards was a bit much. They didn't like this version and decided to edit their own version of it. They haven't posted it yet but it should be out soon.

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#2 Saba Mazloum

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 03:07 AM

Hey thats some insane footage.. i like em.. makes me more want to buy the camera..
One question.. what OST was that? it was inspiring..
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#3 Andrew Walker

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 05:39 PM

Hey thats some insane footage.. i like em.. makes me more want to buy the camera..
One question.. what OST was that? it was inspiring..



The soundtrack is from "V for Vendetta". Glad you liked it.
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#4 Saba Mazloum

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 02:53 AM

The soundtrack is from "V for Vendetta". Glad you liked it.


Thanks man. So the timlapse was not shot with the 12fps right? how did you set it in HVX?

Some of the shots reminded me of Collateral it was awesome..
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#5 Andrew Walker

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 02:31 PM

The HVX was set for the 2fps hack. It was only for the first shot. All the other stuff was with a Canon 20D.
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#6 sinisa.kukic

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 11:33 PM

that was fun. i guess its time to dust of my 20D and have some fun.
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#7 Bill Totolo

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 02:06 AM

Any filtration on the Panasonic?
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#8 Tim O'Connor

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Posted 27 July 2007 - 10:44 PM

The timelapse was mostly shot using a Canon 20D but the opening shot of LA was shot with an HVX.

(480p Version)
http://599production...pse 480p 2.html

(720p Version)
http://599production...pse 720p 2.html
The music video was shot about a little over a month ago. I shot, directed and edited it together. I also did the eye effects in Shake. It was fun to shoot but dealing with the band afterwards was a bit much. They didn't like this version and decided to edit their own version of it. They haven't posted it yet but it should be out soon.

(480p)
http://599production... Dead 480p.html



That's great stuff. What are those flying lights right after the opening shot of the clouds moving?
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#9 Brant Collins

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Posted 29 July 2007 - 04:57 PM

Love the music video. What is your workflow? P2card or hard drive?
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#10 Michael Nash

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Posted 29 July 2007 - 10:35 PM

That's great stuff. What are those flying lights right after the opening shot of the clouds moving?


Planes landing at LAX.
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#11 Martin Yernazian

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Posted 30 July 2007 - 04:53 PM

I really Like the time lapse, really cool footage!!

but the music video was to dark for me, I love the little light bulbs, but I think if you want it to make it muddy, probably was better to use some kinos above the band, or to make the lighting more dramatic, more edgy, creating crazy shadows, but overall it was a good video

I love the slow motion stuff


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#12 Michael Nash

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Posted 30 July 2007 - 06:06 PM

but the music video was to dark for me, I love the little light bulbs, but I think if you want it to make it muddy, probably was better to use some kinos above the band, or to make the lighting more dramatic, more edgy, creating crazy shadows


I agree it was a little dark, but I would have taken a different approach to preserving that really dark feel -- keep the same key lighting, but add just a touch of edgelight on the band, or light the background just a little for separation. Not much at all, just enough for a difference. The problem with "black" on screen is that it goes flat -- you lose the illusion of depth. So when you have black hair or black wardrobe against a black background, it doesn't have any depth -- it tends to look like a face against a flat wall.

But if you are going to embrace the "edges bleeding into the black abyss" look, you can still create a little depth by having the keylight fall off a little more visibly. For example in the shots of the crowd you could have moved the soft keylight a little closer to the subject, so that you can see a dropoff in luminance across the frame.

But overall I liked it; well done. I liked the speed changes during the performance.
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#13 Tim O'Connor

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 08:33 AM

Planes landing at LAX.



Wow, that is so cool. I couldn't figure it out but I guess it's because they're low because they must
be right near the airport?


I've heard people say before that they've used still cameras to shoot time lapse. Do you set the
camera on a tripod and click with a cable release or does that camera have an intervalometer?

Once you have the still frames, do you simply import them into your editing timeline?

Why not use the HVX-200 for everything? What advantages are there to using a still camera?

Thanks.
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Posted 07 August 2007 - 11:50 AM

Any filtration on the Panasonic?


I added a little contast in FCP but that was it.


Love the music video. What is your workflow? P2card or hard drive?


I used 2 4GB P2 cards and a P2 Store for the shoot. Can't wait to get the 16GB cards because those 4GB ones fill up fast.


I really Like the time lapse, really cool footage!!

but the music video was to dark for me, I love the little light bulbs, but I think if you want it to make it muddy, probably was better to use some kinos above the band, or to make the lighting more dramatic, more edgy, creating crazy shadows, but overall it was a good video

I love the slow motion stuff
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Glad you liked the timelapse and the music video. The lighting was really tough in that place because it was small and everyone was freaking out for some reason. I tried to do the best with what I had.

Wow, that is so cool. I couldn't figure it out but I guess it's because they're low because they must
be right near the airport?


I've heard people say before that they've used still cameras to shoot time lapse. Do you set the
camera on a tripod and click with a cable release or does that camera have an intervalometer?

Once you have the still frames, do you simply import them into your editing timeline?

Why not use the HVX-200 for everything? What advantages are there to using a still camera?

Thanks.


I have a remote controller that Canon makes for its 20D and up cameras that fires off the frames. I take all the still frames and import them into Motion and let that program do the assembling. FCP can do the same thing but I like using Motion better. The HVX is really only good to use in the day for timelapse stuff...or at least for me. The 20D allows me to keep the shutter open much longer and collect more light, which is what I need shooting the night time stuff.
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#15 Ken Minehan

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Posted 17 August 2007 - 05:09 AM

Great wotk. It's really beautiful stuff. How did you get you HVX to shoot at 2fps. I have heard of people doing this, but i never worked out how. Can you show me, or send me a link to a site that can show me.

Thanks alot.

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Posted 18 August 2007 - 12:46 AM

Great wotk. It's really beautiful stuff. How did you get you HVX to shoot at 2fps. I have heard of people doing this, but i never worked out how. Can you show me, or send me a link to a site that can show me.

Thanks alot.

Ken Minehan



Here's what Barry Green posted in DVXuser.com on how to do the frame rate hack. I would post the link but this is faster for everyone.


"Here's the procedure:

1) Get a scene file text file on an SD card, usually by going into menu 8, CARD FUNCTIONS, and saving scene files to your SD card.

2) Open the scene file text file in the PRIVATE\MEIGROUP\PAVCN\SBG\P2SD directory, called SCENE1.TXT (or scene2.txt, scene3.txt, or scene4.txt) using a text editor like Windows Notepad

3) Look for the next-to-last item in the scene file. Here's what a sample scene file text file looks like:
00005000: 8 ; DETAIL LEVEL: 0
00005001: 8 ; V DETAIL LEVEL: 0
00005002: 8 ; DETAIL CORING : 0
00005003: 8 ; CHROMA LEVEL: 0
00005004: 8 ; CHROMA PHASE: 0
00005005: 8 ; COLOR TEMP: 0
00005006: 16 ; MASTER PED: 0
00005007: 8 ; A.IRIS LEVEL: 0
00005008: 1 ; NEWS GAMMA: OFF
00005009: 0 ; GAMMA : HD NORM
0000500A: 0 ; KNEE: AUTO
0000500B: 0 ; MATRIX: NORM
0000500C: 1 ; SKIN TONE DTL : OFF
0000500D: 0 ; V DETAIL FREQ : THIN
0000500E: 0 ; OPERATION TYPE: VIDEO CAM
0000500F: 0 ; FRAME RATE: DEFAULT
00005010: BE026801 ; SYNCRO SCAN :

That next-to-last item is:
0000500F: 0 ; FRAME RATE: DEFAULT

You can ignore everything after the semicolon; the semicolon indicates that it's a "comment" and will have no bearing on anything else (so, in this example, the part that says "; FRAME RATE: DEFAULT " is useless, it affects nothing, it's just there for human-readable description).

So the relevant part is:
0000500F: 0

The only thing you would want to change is that last number (in this case, "0"). To get different frame rates, use one of the following numbers:

0 = DEFAULT
1 = 2fps
2 = 3fps
3 =4fps
4 = 6fps
5 = 8fps
6 = 10fps
7 = 12fps
8 = 14fps
9 = 16fps
10 = 18fps
11 = 20fps
12 = 22fps
13 = 23fps
14 = 24fps
16 = 26fps
17 = 27fps
18 = 28fps
19 = 30fps
20 = 32fps
21 = 34fps
22 = 36fps
23 = 38fps
24 = 40fps
25 = 42fps
26 = 44fps
27 = 46fps
28 = 48fps
29 = 50fps
30 = 52fps
32 = 54fps
33 = 56fps
34 = 58fps
35 = 60fps
36+ = repeat of sequence from 50fps to 60fps

So, for example, if you wanted to get a frame rate of 2 FPS, your modified line would look like this:
0000500F: 1 ; FRAME RATE: DEFAULT

And if you wanted 44 fps, it would look like this:
0000500F: 26 ; FRAME RATE: DEFAULT

(don't try higher than 35; I tried 36 and it set it to 50fps, 37 set it to 52, so I think it just repeats 50-60 for all fields set higher than 36)

4) Save your modified text file back onto your SD card

5) Put the SD card back in the camera, go to CARD FUNCTIONS, and read the scene files into the camera.

Now, when you go to the appropriate scene file, you'll see the new frame rate there. But be aware, the only way to assign these "nonstandard" frame rates is through the SD card. If you use the menu to try to change the frame rate, you'll lose it -- it'll immediately jump to 60, and then only allow the normal rates to be selected. You'd have to re-load the scene file from the SD card in order to re-establish your "nonstandard" frame rate."
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#17 David Auner aac

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Posted 18 August 2007 - 03:08 AM

I've heard people say before that they've used still cameras to shoot time lapse. Do you set the camera on a tripod and click with a cable release or does that camera have an intervalometer?


Hi Tim,

when shooting digital you can just hook up the DSLR (Canon can do this, Nikon as well and I guess all others can do too) to your laptop and have the software do the rest. We used that a bit on a doco I shot.

When you're shooting film you need a camera with a databack like the F5/MF-28 combo which features an intervalometer as well as a load of other functions.

Regards, Dave
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