Shooting food with VARICAM
Posted 04 August 2007 - 10:00 PM
advice is much appreciated!
Posted 05 August 2007 - 11:32 PM
anyone with experience shooting food in HD?
I think you'll need to ask a more specific question. It seems to me that your question requires an entire course in using the Varicam. Perhaps you can find a qualified person to set up the camera for you...
If you have a more specific quesiton I'd be happy to try and contribute an answer. Maybe you could start by saying what you do know about using the Varicam?
Posted 06 August 2007 - 10:18 AM
Goodman's Guide to the Varicam is a good place to start with a good core group of settings. Of course, you might also want to consider having things like a color enhancing filter handy, should the need arise.
Posted 06 August 2007 - 10:55 AM
You need to use your real name on this forum, punk!
You also need to be more specific in the questions you ask. :-)
Posted 08 August 2007 - 10:46 PM
Posted 09 August 2007 - 03:24 AM
Take your example of soup and salad. What color is the soup? Is it black bean soup or butternut squash? One will be a deep brown to black and the other an orange-yellow. Those might well be the colors you'll want to focus on so that they stand out in the image. What plates or setting is the food in? The surrounding colors will effect your food's color as well. And there's the ever present question of how much time you have to tweak or not to tweak your image.
Your best protection, if you don't have the luxury of time on set, is to find out what the food will look like and what it'll be placed on and run a few test prior to shooting. If it's a tortilla soup, you might want to pump up the red-orange in the camera's matrix and pump up the greens for the salad. This will take some knowledge of the camera's menus and operation but it will be time well spent.
Posted 09 August 2007 - 07:59 AM
I'm sure I will figure it out.
Posted 09 August 2007 - 01:00 PM
Posted 09 August 2007 - 03:52 PM
Posted 10 August 2007 - 04:44 PM
Thanks Eric, thats helpful info. I realize thaty there is no real right or wrong and most of it is subjective. I guess I was looking for setting(s) that would be neutral and simply just a clean image to start with so that I may have better control of colors in post IF need be.
I'm sure I will figure it out.
OK, so you're just looking for neutral/clean, will adjust in post...
#1 Get Goodman's Guide to the Varicam if you don't have it.
I would try these settings:
In Gamma menu: Cinegamma select=Film Rec, dynamic level = 200%, master gamma = .48
In the knee menu make sure manual knee is on.
In the camera menu make sure high color is off. If master detail is set to on, then set master detail to -2 for a start (in the ROP menu)
Set color correction and matrix to off.
Set master gain to 0 or -3
This should give you a pleasing, if slightly low contrast look that you can punch up in post. If you need a little less contrast, change the master gamma to .45. If you need a little more punch try setting the black stretch to -2 (it's in the low or med or high menus that correspond to the position of the gain switch on the side of the camera)
Also, I would set the compression setting in the VTR menu to "dark" to prevent ugly compression blocks in the deeper shadows.
Also note that this setting uses the "FilmRec" mode and therefore the knee point/slope settings will not effect the image..
Hope this is a good starting point. Personally I would advise against just downloading a look or settings from the internet as many that I've seen appear to me to be kind of poor choices for this camera. And I'm sure they would say the same about my choices I guess
Best of luck,