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#1 Chris Graham

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 09:54 AM

ideally for filmmaking. or what would you recommend? thank you
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#2 Nate Downes

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 10:13 AM

HVX200 if you want to do any serious work. I've tried the less-pricy options from Sony and Canon, but they just don't hold a candle when you look at them on the final screen.
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#3 Chris Graham

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 10:44 AM

HVX200 if you want to do any serious work. I've tried the less-pricy options from Sony and Canon, but they just don't hold a candle when you look at them on the final screen.


thanks, Nate. is it better than a GL2?
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#4 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 11:04 AM

Much better. AFAIK the GL2 is not an HD camera at all; just a mini dv. The HVX records DVCPROHD on something called a "P2" card which simply gets plugged into a PCMI (i think?) slot on a laptop and can be imported into FCP without having to digitize the tapes. Also you can shoot miniDV or HDV on standard cassettes. For $5g about, it's a nice camera, though the P2s are expensive they are, of course, re-usable and do save you time on the whole log and capture frontier.
See if you can find a local dealer and go try it out! Or even look to a rental house and see if they'll let you either rent it for a day or just take it to the packing lot and get a feel for the camera.
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#5 David Auner aac

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 11:07 AM

Way better. You can record DVPRO50 and DVCPROHD on P2 cards with the HVX200. Makes a nice image, much better to key than HDV or DV. Here's a sample: HVX200 sample frame

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 12:08 PM

thank you, guys. really appreciate it.

Am I fine with Adobe Premiere since I don't have Final Cut? I run on PC. Lastly; why is this HVX at this price!?? skeptic

http://www.bestprice...x?prodid=308260

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#7 David Auner aac

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 12:18 PM

Am I fine with Adobe Premiere since I don't have Final Cut? I run on PC.


Yep. PremierePro will be fine as will Avid XpressHD.

Cheers, Dave
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Posted 23 August 2007 - 09:13 PM

Even though I own an HVX200 to answer your question correctly there is a cheaper HD24p camera - the Canon HV20. about 1k.
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#9 Gary McClurg

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Posted 23 August 2007 - 10:07 PM

thank you, guys. really appreciate it.

Am I fine with Adobe Premiere since I don't have Final Cut? I run on PC. Lastly; why is this HVX at this price!?? skeptic

http://www.bestprice...x?prodid=308260


That is a bogus price... its the normal fake camera sales... they'll call you after a day ordering it and say for example "hey we see you forgot to order the lens." "That'll run another $3k"... even though its a fixed lens camera...

Edited by Gary McClurg, 23 August 2007 - 10:07 PM.

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Posted 27 August 2007 - 03:48 PM

thanks guys. Should I go the route of 16:9 sensors or getting a GL2 and buying the anamorphic lens? The Canon HV20 i will check
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#11 Gary McClurg

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Posted 27 August 2007 - 04:23 PM

thanks guys. Should I go the route of 16:9 sensors or getting a GL2 and buying the anamorphic lens? The Canon HV20 i will check



1. What are your plans for the camera?

That will help in what advice to give to you...
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#12 Chris Graham

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Posted 27 August 2007 - 04:44 PM

1. What are your plans for the camera?

That will help in what advice to give to you...


thanks so much for the prompt reply. In all honesty I'm fairly new to digital formats. Most of my actual cinematic work has been done on 35mm, 16, and 8, preferably. However, I love making shorts, and in this day and age it seems that digital and 24p is one of the most flexible and fun ways to put down ideas or projects. So, I just don't want to get suckered with all the marketing and branding going around with different hi-def specs. I love the GL2. The lens was a big deal when it came out, for Canon of course. However, the GL2 doesn't shoot in 1080i or up to the new "dedicated" as they call 16:9 sensory chips. In the end, imo, a good quality images comes from the lens and good lighting. At the same time I love new features and ease. Would I be stupid to trade in a GL2 for a HV20? Does the anamorphic lens from Century show promise?

btw, when I put the GL2 in "frame" mode is that mimicking 24p? it seems so.

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#13 Tim Terner

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Posted 27 August 2007 - 11:09 PM

To get HVX200 footage into Adobe Premier you will need Cineform which costs $500
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Posted 28 August 2007 - 08:39 AM

If you own the GL2... its standard depth... I believe that a Century adapter costs about $800 on average...

Have you looked into the A1... on average $3,400... 16x9, HD... and Canon... I guess you could say its the HD GL2...

But I haven't shot with either camera... HV 20 I think I've heard you can get it for around $2k...
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#15 Chris Graham

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 08:50 AM

If you own the GL2... its standard depth... I believe that a Century adapter costs about $800 on average...

Have you looked into the A1... on average $3,400... 16x9, HD... and Canon... I guess you could say its the HD GL2...

But I haven't shot with either camera... HV 20 I think I've heard you can get it for around $2k...


Good morning, Gary. The only reason why I would want to continue using a GL2 is because it's a bit more robust than a small cam. With the GL2, if proper rigged, it's just the ideal and standard shape for a camera if I'm wanting to do jib or crane shots? I know some of you are probably thinking that if I'm going that route I might as well rent out a better camera. Thing is, like all, funding or budgets is extremely tight. I will research the A1.

I have been doing a lot of research or readings towards different censory chips, on how bigger chips aren't necessarily better than smaller ones. For instance the differences of noise ratio.
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