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#1 Mr. Macgregor

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Posted 25 August 2007 - 04:15 PM

Hi all. For a two camera shooting. Do you think i could mix shots taken with these two different sets at the same given T number? I want to shoot at T2.8 where both should perform quite well. Will i get similar resolution?

Also i am worried about the Superspeeds being quite older, in terms of barrel distortion in the wider lenses.

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Posted 25 August 2007 - 04:18 PM

Hi all. For a two camera shooting. Do you think i could mix shots taken with these two different sets at the same given T number? I want to shoot at T2.8 where both should perform quite well. Will i get similar resolution?

Also i am worried about the Superspeeds being quite older, in terms of barrel distortion in the wider lenses.

best,
Mac


Hi Mac,

IMO the Ultraprimes will be sharper.

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Posted 25 August 2007 - 04:20 PM

Hi Mac,

IMO the Ultraprimes will be sharper.

Stephen



Hi Stephen! Wow, You are always online.

Do i have any other option at the superspeeds price?

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Posted 25 August 2007 - 04:24 PM

Hi Stephen! Wow, You are always online.

Do i have any other option at the superspeeds price?


2 sets of Superspeeds!

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#5 Mr. Macgregor

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Posted 25 August 2007 - 04:26 PM

2 sets of Superspeeds!

Stephen



hahahaha.

What about barrel distorsion, will i encounter any?
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#6 Stephen Williams

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Posted 25 August 2007 - 04:35 PM

hahahaha.

What about barrel distorsion, will i encounter any?


Hi Mac,

They only go to an 18mm, what are you shooting?

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#7 Mr. Macgregor

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Posted 25 August 2007 - 04:37 PM

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Posted 26 August 2007 - 06:06 PM

Nobody will be able to see the difference unless it's an A and B test. Heck, they intercut zooms with primes all the time on features, and nobody spots that - and they're often far worse.
The Superspeeds are sharp lenses when stopped down. They fall apart a bot wide open (but in a nice, organic way), but from T2 an upwards, they're pretty hot.
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Posted 28 August 2007 - 10:21 AM

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Hi Mac,

IMO the Master primes would be better for wide shots like that, for close ups of people I would prefer the Super Speeds .The difference in resolution is fairly obvious if you project the film in the cinema.

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#10 Mr. Macgregor

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Posted 28 August 2007 - 10:41 AM

Hi Mac,

IMO the Master primes would be better for wide shots like that, for close ups of people I would prefer the Super Speeds .The difference in resolution is fairly obvious if you project the film in the cinema.

Stephen


Thanks Stephen. Master primes are away too far in price for this shooting.
The story involves some wide shots and very close ups (85-135mm).

What would you recommend then to rent?
I am thinking that i might skip film for this project and go with a RED. But since no one has ever used a red1, no one knows how cine lenses should perform (besides the S4 that Peter J and Red team have been using).
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Posted 28 August 2007 - 12:00 PM

Thanks Stephen. Master primes are away too far in price for this shooting.
The story involves some wide shots and very close ups (85-135mm).

What would you recommend then to rent?
I am thinking that i might skip film for this project and go with a RED. But since no one has ever used a red1, no one knows how cine lenses should perform (besides the S4 that Peter J and Red team have been using).


Hi Mac,

As Adam says Superspeeds are sharp, I always use them when budgets are tight. They work OK with a P+S adapter so should work well with a RED.

Stephen
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