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#1 Gary McClurg

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Posted 11 September 2007 - 12:50 PM

I was wondering if anyone has added up the numbers and figured out which is cheaper... if you go the di route...

The same with going straight to hard drive... I see that Bono labs does it... just wondering if someone has done the numbers on that as well...
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#2 Nathan Milford

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Posted 11 September 2007 - 01:02 PM

Ultimately, S16 will be cheaper.

For similar run times you'll need the same amount of footage... however a 400' roll of 5218 costs more than a 400' roll of 7218.

Not to mention the camera kit may go for less etc....
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#3 Stephen Williams

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Posted 11 September 2007 - 01:06 PM

Ultimately, S16 will be cheaper.

For similar run times you'll need the same amount of footage... however a 400' roll of 5218 costs more than a 400' roll of 7218.

Not to mention the camera kit may go for less etc....


Hi Nathan,

You will need 2.5 times more rolls of 35mm, only 16 frames per foot V 40 frames per foot.

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#4 David Auner aac

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Posted 11 September 2007 - 01:13 PM

You will need 2.5 times more rolls of 35mm, only 16 frames per foot V 40 frames per foot.


Hi Steven,

I think you're off here. They are talking of 2perf vs. S16. So shouldn't 2perf be 32 frames per foot? Which makes 25% more rolls?!?

Cheers, Dave
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#5 Gary McClurg

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Posted 11 September 2007 - 01:28 PM

I was thinking that 2perf doubles your running time...

So on average you get 10 minutes out of a 1000' foot load... so that would mean you get 20 minutes...

So if you can get Fuji 35mm for $400 bucks for a 1000' foot load that would be the same as 2 400' 16mm loads at $115 bucks a roll... so that's $400 vs. $230... plus lab, etc.... so S16mm would be cheaper if my running times are close... the only thing last time I checked into renting S16 is that I could get a better deal on a 35mm camera because everyone wanted to shoot S16 at the time... so who knows have to add those numbers in as well... but then again would a 2perf cost more or equal to a normal 35mm rental...

Edited by Gary McClurg, 11 September 2007 - 01:30 PM.

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#6 Nathan Milford

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Posted 11 September 2007 - 01:45 PM

No so Stephen, as David pointed out, we're talking 2-perf. >8)

2p effectively doubles your running time as you're halving the height of the frame, fitting twice as many images on a roll of film (compared to 4p).

but then again would a 2perf cost more or equal to a normal 35mm rental...


I believe a 2p, 3p or 4p camera would all cost the same to rent (taking into consideration if it's an old camera or new, from a rental house or an owner).
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#7 Stephen Williams

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Posted 11 September 2007 - 01:47 PM

Hi Steven,

I think you're off here. They are talking of 2perf vs. S16. So shouldn't 2perf be 32 frames per foot? Which makes 25% more rolls?!?

Cheers, Dave


Hi Dave,

Yes I screwed up on that one! Whilst writing the answer, I was receiving & writing Emails relative to the Red forum, which was getting a new post every few seconds as well!

Sorry Nathan my bad!

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#8 Nathan Milford

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Posted 11 September 2007 - 01:51 PM

Not a problem. Stephen you're a champ on here and your displays knowledge continually blow me away.
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Posted 11 September 2007 - 01:58 PM

Yes I screwed up on that one! Whilst writing the answer, I was receiving & writing Emails relative to the Red forum, which was getting a new post every few seconds as well!


Hehe, I know the feeling. That's what happens when you do more than you should at the same time... :D

Cheers, Dave
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Posted 11 September 2007 - 02:06 PM

Hehe, I know the feeling. That's what happens when you do more than you should at the same time... :D

Cheers, Dave


Hi Dave,

I did not mention, I actually shooting, the actor is taking a break he's stressed out :lol:

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Posted 11 September 2007 - 02:34 PM

I did not mention, I actually shooting, the actor is taking a break he's stressed out :lol:


Gee, now that must be a long break! Have fun!

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#12 Stephen Williams

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Posted 11 September 2007 - 02:35 PM

Gee, now that must be a long break! Have fun!

Gruezi, Dave


Hi Dave,

The actor's lost it, we've wrapped now!

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