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#21 Carlos_Martinez

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Posted 02 May 2007 - 09:52 AM

On this particular topic although not including Film Connection. How do you guys feel about IFP networks? Im considering it its a 60 member fee that gets word on all movies happening in your area. (As you see Im in Chicago) and more films are shooting here nowadays. Would you guys recommend it?





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#22 Kyle Fulmer

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 06:02 PM

Let me first say I wish this company would get shut down so no one else would get screwed over like I did. I was stupid, I should of known it was a scam. I was told I could pay the money over the course of the program or pay 2000 less and pay up front, so I payed the 5000 up front. I talked with Jimmy the head guy, I told him I wanted to work on a film. A couple days later he told me he had found me a mentor for a movie production company. I had my interview and was told that I could get a job as a INTERN not a apprenticeship like I was told from film connection. To make matters worse I ask the guy that I'm getting the interview from if they do movies and he says they are strictly a TV production company. So I suck it up and take the job there because I can't get ahold of anyone with the film connection company now that they have my money. I worked as an intern on the show until it got cut a couple weeks later. I didn't get a chance to make any contacts because I had no clue what I was doing and no one was willing to help me. OK, so when I signed up for the program the contract stated you are supposed to get 7 years job placement. 4 months later I finally get ahold of Jimmy after threatening phone calls, letters, emails, faxed letters. They Finlay get me another INTERNSHIP with a small production company in studio city. I told them I could edit, (I obviously couldn't, seeing as I hadn't really learned anything yet.) I didn't now if I would get another chance at another company, so I lied. I had no clue how to edit, I had to go to the editor and ask him tons of questions luckily he was a really nice guy. After a lot of teaching myself to edit, and asking a lot of questions I got the hang of it. THERE WAS NO MENTOR! Please go to craiglist, realitystaff.com, but don't waste your money on this guy. And whoever said these people (Meaning people like me that got screwed over.) are just bitter because they are failures (In a earlier post) I'm actually editing and Producing now. This company promised so many things, I certainly did not have a mentor like the company states. It's not just me either,  One of the jobs I worked on recently I came to find out a guy I worked with also went through them and he had the same experience. Please don't waste your money they are a SCAM!!!!!! and should be shut down. I don't know how Jimmy Petula sleeps at night, anyone affiliated with this program should be in jail.

(I called today for fun and talked to one lady she said it's only 3 years job placement now, Called again talked to another and she said it's only 1 year, just to let you know how screwed up this company is).
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#23 darrin p nim

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Posted 03 July 2007 - 01:27 AM

I did alittle investigating myself. Sean Chou who on their website is claimed to have 2nd ADed on PoolHall Junkies as his first job given to him by film-connections is actually named Shaun Chou (according to imdb) but actually was the assistant to director, big difference, and im sure film-connection new the difference.
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#24 Jason Katz

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Posted 12 June 2008 - 03:23 PM

Film Connection is not a scam. No offense but everyone posting here sounds real negative.

I went to Film Connection so I can tell you it was not a scam. I studied cinematography with a DP named Andrew Shulkind. Here's how the program worked for me

I met with Andy twice a week. He privately taught me in cinematography showing me camera, lighting, lenses and filters in his studio. Then when he got on jobs, I was his P.A., we met everyday for 6 months, when Andy worked he brought me on shows with him. It was way cool.

Andrew is a great up and coming DP and now I am working in the camera dept. because of him. I'm also working on my reel as a DP. Film Connection is not a perfect program but it is 100x better than any cinematography program that I have seen. It's only 7,500 grand total and you get to learn from a professional instead of a teacher in a classroom.

to put things in perspective my best friend went to LA Film, here's what he got:

115 thousand dollars worth of debt. Yep, that's right, 35 grand to go there, 35 grand to live on, plus interest so he pays 480.0 per month until he's 50 years old (25 years) and he's right now working as a telemarketer for AT and T (in other words he's not in the film business).

I paid 7500 hundred and I learned cinematography and am now making my living in the film business as a Camera PA and 2nd. Plus Andy and I are still in contact so if I have questions or need help he's cool to help.

If anyone has any other questions about this program feel free to email me.

nomorefear@hotmail.com
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#25 Moe Hawke

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Posted 12 June 2008 - 04:22 PM

I'm a producer, director, writer, editor and as such have had numerous occasions to hire crew and staff. Pretty much the one constant rule I had was to never take anyone who'd gone to a film school--there was just too much stuff they had to unlearn before they were useful.

I also know that I got to become a producer, director, writer and editor because first of all I had learned from the ground up as a grip, gopher, gaffer, floor director and second of all because I had the drive and was willing to work 100 hour weeks.

I've read over numerous posts and it seems that the "George Lucas" clip was a big sticking point with some....I don't see anywhere on the site where it says "George Lucas endorses film-connection"...what he is endorsing is the mentor/apprentice method of learning a craft. In this George is right, there is no better way to learn the biz than by being taught by someone in the biz, working on a real project in the real world.

My guess is that the majority of sour grapes are coming from people who will never succeed unless daddy buys them a job. Life is what you make of it. It's easier to make it when you are working/interning/apprenticing on the inside than it is knocking on doors from the outside.

I can't say the film connection is perfect, but I do know that I would rather pay $7500 and get actual experience on real productions than be indebted to a "real film school" for over $100,000 and be saddled with a bunch of wrong knowledge that I'd have to unlearn before I would be of use to anyone.
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#26 Rob McGreevy

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 05:49 PM

I'd like to chime in here. I work as a grip/gaffer. I'm considering a return to film school. So I started researching programs and I came across this one. Initially I liked what they were offering. I always do research before I commit to anything, and I thought I'd share my findings with anyone else who is interested in going to this school. click on this link:

http://www.labbb.org...panyID=13134620

This will take you to the better business bureau report on this company, the one that gave them an "F" rating. If you call the BBB in Colton California, you may be able to speak to a man named Gary Almond, a supervisor of investigations there. He laughed and said 'many scams like this (referring to Entertainment Career Connection) try to sue us for exposing them, they never win...a scam is a scam'. He also stated that the company uses misleading advertising on it's website and literature. He said they have hundreds of complaints pending and this company has lost many lawsuits. He said they're excited to go to court.

So... think twice about these guys, I would say.

Edited by Rob McGreevy, 11 December 2008 - 05:49 PM.

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#27 Michele Peterson

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:09 AM

Even though this is an old thread, I thought I'd add my 2 cents since it's already been bumped up anyway.

No one should have to pay to work! An internship is a good place to start if you have no experience or connections, but you certainly don't have to pay several grand to get one. Credible companies are constantly hiring interns, since interns don't stay long. Do some basic research online and you can find hundreds of production companies, then keep contacting different companies until you find one you can intern with. There are plenty of free job sites as well. There are plenty of scams out there. Many "film schools" pop up, especially in LA, and charge a bunch of money and aren't even properly accredited to give you a real degree that with transfer anywhere else.

Edited by Michele Peterson, 12 December 2008 - 11:12 AM.

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#28 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 02:11 PM

You can always just buy an HV30 for $700 or so, edit on your laptop and learn the basics, accruing more things as you go along-- work the free jobs on craigslist, apply to internships, take a night class or two, or go to one of the Kodak cinematography workshops. . . all of which are cheaper than any film school etc [disclaimer I went to film school and enjoyed it but I got a lot of grant money to do it.] If anything, I'd take 7G or 5G or whatever, and move to LA for a few months and pound pavement till I got on a set while reading everything I could get my hands on etc. . .In fact, that's part of my "bigger picture" plan!
Save your money!
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#29 Matt Read

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Posted 19 December 2008 - 05:51 PM

Also note that "Jason Katz" and "Moe Hawke," who both give film-connection glowingly masturbatory reviews are first time posters and have consecutive member numbers. Clearly these are not real people. I mean, Moe Hawke? Like mohawk? Worst fake name ever.

A quick check on IMDb shows that there is no "Moe Hawke" credited with producing, writing, directing or editing anything at all. Of the three IMDb results for "Jason Katz" none have done credited work in the past two years and only one has "camera department" credit, which comes from a short film, which he apparently did everything on (including acting) and a whopping three episodes of Howard Stern on demand, not exactly the type of work most people are hoping to get.

Can we get an admin to delete these accounts?

Clearly, this film-connection thing is a scam. As has been pointed out, you should never have to pay to get work. You might have to work for free a few times, but you should never, ever have to pay.
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#30 Matt Read

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 05:11 PM

Here's a quote from the FTC:

"Legitimate job placement firms that work to fill specific positions cannot charge an up front fee."

Film-connection is a scam. End of discussion.
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#31 Dan Salzmann

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 07:10 PM

Moe Hawke and Jason Katz = Mohawk and Chasin' cats.
Hmm...
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#32 Rebekah Jackson

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Posted 14 February 2010 - 11:48 AM

I have been looking into Film Connection for a number of years. For one reason or another over the years I just have not been able to do it. Either no time, or no money. Last time I talked with someone about it, I gained a lot of info, and they tried to be very helpful. Yes, money was an issue, however they were not pushy about it. I am sure there are people who have failed and are pissed, and people who have not even given it a try and have things to say about it. The latter people need to shut up. The company has been around for a long time, their information packages are amazing, their staff are helpful, and the format for learning is incredible. Someday hopefully soon, I will be able to enter into this training. I know I can work hard at it, and make it work for me. If someone doesn't like what I am saying, that's tough. I am so sick of people spreading lies, acting like they know for certain. If you have not gone through the training then shut up. No one needs to hear your crap. We want to hear from the people who have actually tried the training. Not someone who just called and gave some guy a hard time just to prove a point, which you didn't even prove. Don't you have anything better to do? I look forward to hearing from the people who actually matter. Feel free to email me any experiences you have with the company at missbekah78@gmail.com

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#33 Richard Boddington

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Posted 14 February 2010 - 07:39 PM

I look forward to hearing from the people who actually matter. Feel free to email me any experiences you have with the company at missbekah78@gmail.com

Bekah


You only have one post and it's in defense of Career Connection? Plus your e-mail address is a gmail account.

Sorry, all seems very fishy to me. It's clear that you are a Career Connection employee posing as a soon to be satisfied customer.

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#34 Rebekah Jackson

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Posted 14 February 2010 - 08:18 PM

You only have one post and it's in defense of Career Connection? Plus your e-mail address is a gmail account.

Sorry, all seems very fishy to me. It's clear that you are a Career Connection employee posing as a soon to be satisfied customer.

R,


I assure you I am not with that company. In fact, I have no job at all. You are just proving my point more and more with what you just said. You are just on the attack.

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#35 Chris Warren

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Posted 14 February 2010 - 09:09 PM

I have agree with Mr. Boddington that you, "Bekah", are indeed affiliated with that so called "school". I mean really, with all of the spelling and grammar errors on that site, who can trust it?

I do find it rather entertaining that "they" continue to fight for their scam when the evidence is clear that they are con artists.
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#36 Richard Boddington

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 02:03 AM

I assure you I am not with that company. In fact, I have no job at all. You are just proving my point more and more with what you just said. You are just on the attack.

Bekah


Sorry doesn't add up, you mysteriously show up on this site to post in defense of Career Connection? It does seem a bit odd don't you think?

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#37 Rebekah Jackson

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 04:26 AM

Sorry doesn't add up, you mysteriously show up on this site to post in defense of Career Connection? It does seem a bit odd don't you think?

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Actually no it doesn't seem odd. I have been looking into Film Connection for years, and I decided to look it up again, and found this forum, read through it, and got mad over all the crap I was reading. I have not gone through the program. I have been in contact with them, and have gotten things from them through the mail. So far, I have had no negative things happen to me while dealing with this company. I am "sorry" if you have a problem with that. I am not going to make up some bull crap to make myself seem more real. You can google me if you want. I have a heavy web presence. Missbekah78. I have done a lot, and I have seen a lot. I have a feeling you are just a small little man trying to get attention.

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#38 Richard Boddington

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 12:22 PM

I have a feeling you are just a small little man trying to get attention.

Bekah


Uh Huh, say hi to Jimmy for me. Do you get his coffee?

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#39 Rebekah Jackson

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 12:27 PM

Uh Huh, say hi to Jimmy for me. Do you get his coffee?

R,


You are a crazy little man. Why should I say something bad about the company when I have not had any bad dealings with them. I am moving to the Republic of Turkey so I probably won't get to join them. I was looking to see if they had anything like this is Turkey when I ran across this forum. You act like me posting on it was out of the blue or magic or something. It's not my fault you were rambling on here for a long time before I came along. If I had bad dealings with film connection I would tell you all about it. I didn't get far enough to have bad dealings. It's as simple as that.

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#40 Richard Boddington

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Posted 15 February 2010 - 04:57 PM

I am moving to the Republic of Turkey


The jokes practically write themselves on this one :blink:

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