Jump to content


Photo

Double Perf in Single System?


  • Please log in to reply
6 replies to this topic

#1 James Paonessa

James Paonessa

    New

  • Basic Members
  • Pip
  • 3 posts
  • Cinematographer
  • Savannah,GA

Posted 01 October 2007 - 08:03 PM

Hey everyone,
So this question came up at work today and so I started to investigate it. Background on the question, I work for the Savannah College of Art and Design within their Equipment Cage and currently act as the "semi" camera tech till they officially hire me for the position. Anyway a student ran double perf 16mm in one of our SR2's and some of the other staffers referred this to me because they were unsure if any damage could have occured.
I looked and it looked fine but I was curious anyway because this problem has occured before. Now I have never heard anything wrong with running double in a single system, just the other way around, running single perf in a double perf system is bad (obviously because of punched holes and such).
Anyone else have any knowledge on this subject or is it something that the students shouldnt worry a ton about?

Edited by James Paonessa, 01 October 2007 - 08:04 PM.

  • 0

#2 Jonathan Bowerbank

Jonathan Bowerbank
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 2815 posts
  • 1st Assistant Camera
  • San Francisco, CA

Posted 01 October 2007 - 08:15 PM

I don't see how this would cause any damage. Should be fine.
  • 0

#3 Michael Lehnert

Michael Lehnert
  • Sustaining Members
  • 1095 posts
  • Other
  • London, UK / Basel, CH

Posted 01 October 2007 - 08:38 PM

Does not cause any problems or defects whatsoever to the camera mechanics. No need to worry!
  • 0

#4 Tim Carroll

Tim Carroll
  • Sustaining Members
  • 2168 posts
  • Other
  • Chicago, Illinois

Posted 01 October 2007 - 08:51 PM

Nothing to worry about. Was it a regular 16 SR2 or a Super 16 SR2? If it was a Super 16 SR2 I'd love to see that negative. :rolleyes:

Tim
  • 0

#5 Robert Houllahan

Robert Houllahan
  • Sustaining Members
  • 1626 posts
  • Industry Rep
  • Providence R.I.

Posted 02 October 2007 - 12:07 AM

Nothing to worry about. Was it a regular 16 SR2 or a Super 16 SR2? If it was a Super 16 SR2 I'd love to see that negative. :rolleyes:

Tim



I have shot a ton of double perf in my Super-16 aaton ltr never had a problem, the image extends all the way to the right side, minus two sorta square chunks :lol: certainly does not affect registration or steadiness.

-Rob-
  • 0

#6 Charles MacDonald

Charles MacDonald
  • Sustaining Members
  • 1157 posts
  • Other
  • Stittsville Ontario Canada

Posted 02 October 2007 - 07:51 PM

I don't see how this would cause any damage. Should be fine.

Until they started pushing super 16mm double perf was what was shipped as default unless you asked for single. The Camera just does not see the perfs as it is not looing for them. If you are shotting for Super 16 frame you would get these two looming rectangles on teh right of the picture however.

Would also give funky results if you were trying to use single system sound in a auricon. BUZZZZZ.
  • 0

#7 James Paonessa

James Paonessa

    New

  • Basic Members
  • Pip
  • 3 posts
  • Cinematographer
  • Savannah,GA

Posted 03 October 2007 - 05:55 PM

cool cool, yeah i coulndt think of anything possibly wrong aside from stability. I think they shot on super 16 so they will have some fun in telecine.
  • 0


New Pro Video - New and Used Equipment

Abel Cine

Ritter Battery

Glidecam

The Slider

Paralinx LLC

Media Blackout - Custom Cables and AKS

Tai Audio

Wooden Camera

Broadcast Solutions Inc

Technodolly

FJS International, LLC

Aerial Filmworks

rebotnix Technologies

Rig Wheels Passport

Gamma Ray Digital Inc

Metropolis Post

Visual Products

CineTape

CineLab

Willys Widgets

Media Blackout - Custom Cables and AKS

CineLab

Paralinx LLC

Metropolis Post

CineTape

Technodolly

Ritter Battery

Tai Audio

Glidecam

The Slider

New Pro Video - New and Used Equipment

Broadcast Solutions Inc

Willys Widgets

Abel Cine

rebotnix Technologies

Aerial Filmworks

Wooden Camera

Gamma Ray Digital Inc

Visual Products

Rig Wheels Passport

FJS International, LLC