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#1 Fredrik Backar FSF

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 02:21 PM

Question: Who knows of any old freeze storage of EXR filmstocks available??

Some time ago I was looking with the help of Kodak for some EXR and was told there was a large freezestorage of such somewhere in CA but ear marked for a specific production.
Next question; could it be possible that Kaminski and Spielberg are using just that one batch the new Indy film??
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#2 Matthew Buick

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 02:38 PM

Sounds likely. It'll be grainer that a modern film, which is probably the look Spielberg and Kaminski are after.
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#3 Jayson Crothers

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 07:00 PM

About 3 years ago John Toll had Kodak run a fairly large order of 5293 for a film, but I was told by the Kodak rep that he ultimately chose not to use it. I did a short film with it and I can't say enough how much I loved the snap and contrast. I know Kodak was offering some good deals on it, so you may try calling the LA office to see if they have any left.
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#4 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 09:45 PM

I think the new Indy movie may (though I don't have proof) be shooting the old Vision '74 and '79; I don't think there is any EXR left at Kodak.
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#5 K Borowski

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 03:49 PM

Are the Original Vision stocks even still in production anymore, or are there just a lot of cans of it left from an older run?
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#6 Matthew Buick

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 04:06 PM

I think the new Indy movie may (though I don't have proof) be shooting the old Vision '74 and '79; I don't think there is any EXR left at Kodak.


I, personally can't tell the difference in sharpness between EXR and Vision2. But I think I like the colour tone of the EXR more.

But I don't see why anyone in their right mind would bother with an ancient film stock. :ph34r: ;)
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#7 Ignacio Aguilar

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 04:09 PM

This morning I was reading again John Toll's interview in the January 2004 issue of AC, covering "The Last Samurai" and he says that he switched from EXR 5298 (500T) to the (then) new VISION2 5218 (500T) during the shoot. At first I thought that it was an error and he was talking about VISION1 5279 (500T) -because 5298 was discontinued around 1997-1998; "Eyes Wide Shut" got special supplies from Kodak-, but then 5298 was mentioned again, so I don't know. The article is available at the ASC website.
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#8 Matthew Buick

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 04:14 PM

I would love some EXR 50D. Those nice tones I remember from movies of that time, but as fine a grain as possible. Pro8mm still offer it don't they?
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Posted 01 November 2007 - 06:35 PM

I would love some EXR 50D. Those nice tones I remember from movies of that time, but as fine a grain as possible. Pro8mm still offer it don't they?


I called Pro8mm a few months back seeing if they had any. Sadly they did not.
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#10 Saul Rodgar

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 10:13 PM

I, personally can't tell the difference in sharpness between EXR and Vision2. But I think I like the colour tone of the EXR more.

But I don't see why anyone in their right mind would bother with an ancient film stock. :ph34r: ;)


Well you answered your question. If you liked the color tone of the EXR more than the Vision 2 and wanted that same quality on your next project, wouldn't you use EXR instead of something else you don't like as much? Why have to use digital or optical efx to turn Vision 2 into EXR when you can just shoot EXR? Well frozen film will last for long. Or if you can afford it, Kodak will make you afresh new batch. It's all about the look. If you can't agree there, you are in the wrong business, pal.
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#11 Matthew Buick

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Posted 03 November 2007 - 05:46 PM

I line about not wanting the bother with old film stock is a nod to my wish once to cut 5247 into Super 8 cartridges. I now know that to be a very silly idea.

Believe me. If there were Super 8 EXR cartridges on the moon I would have the shipped down to Earth by Neil Armstrong personally. :lol:
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#12 robbie Land

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Posted 06 November 2007 - 08:58 PM

i miss the EXR 7248. i have one 100' left and currently in camera. i'm okay because feel the fuji vivid may hopefully satisfy. the vision series just doesnt have what i like about the EXR line, which is contrast, color saturation and dense rich blacks.
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#13 Matthew Buick

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Posted 10 November 2007 - 07:07 PM

Pro8mm still sell some in the custom film section. I'm buying four or maybe eight or even twelve rolls tomorrow.
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#14 Matthew Buick

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Posted 18 November 2007 - 05:54 PM

Bought four rolls of 5248 from pro8mm a couple of hours ago. There aren't too many left, if you want some you had better hot-foot it.
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Posted 11 June 2008 - 02:49 PM

I have access to quite a few rolls of the EXR 7293 stock, and was just wondering what opinions people had on it?
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Posted 11 June 2008 - 03:03 PM

I have access to quite a few rolls of the EXR 7293 stock, and was just wondering what opinions people had on it?



Shoot it. You'll like it. Overexpose by about a 1/2 to 1 stop. Recently, I shot some 5248, 5296 and 5287
recently. I'll posts some stills.
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Posted 15 October 2008 - 10:56 PM

Diving in the camera room in the Film School of Chile, were I teach, found a couple of short end of 5248.
We used it without any compensation just to see how the time could degrade a film stock.
We shot a simple dolly exercise in one of the school patios.. The image finally was really impressive.
Deep blacks, saturated colors and clear definition.. the Iso rate wasn't a problem at all..
I just find some magenta shift in medium to shadows areas.. but nothing so important for at least 10 years of regular to bad storage condition.


all the best

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#18 Robert Houllahan

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Posted 16 October 2008 - 10:46 PM

I recently came across a short end (maybe 650') of 5247 which was put on the shelf in 1987 I took 300' in eyemo spools on vacation to Canada with me shot it as 40iso ran it when I got back looked surprisingly good I'll have to post a few shots. I'm saving the rest for a future project, maybe a mv or something.

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