Posted 03 October 2007 - 12:40 AM
Posted 03 October 2007 - 04:17 AM
I always ask for the crosshair in the middle of the groundglass to be removed too, it prevents the temptation of shotgun-sighting framing.
Posted 03 October 2007 - 12:52 PM
That was my preference, too -- one clean well defined rectangle, with the outside darkened. On most GG's, you can just shade the overview area with an ordinary pencil. You can wash it off when you're done.
I always ask for the crosshair in the middle of the groundglass to be removed too, ....
Posted 04 October 2007 - 01:45 AM
Posted 04 October 2007 - 02:19 AM
Posted 04 October 2007 - 09:18 AM
I do believe the video influence a great deal too. I have shot thousands and thousands of hours of video for my business and find the viewing system so much more agreeable. I simply do not need to see outside my composition. I don't like the cross hairs either. I had Bernie O' redo my ground glass so it was 1.85 only and very dark green outside of the 1.85.
Even that was not satisfactory enough. I have since had the area outside of the ground glass painted black. To me this is how you can compose the best shots possible.
I also have taken about a million pictures in my life, yet another medium that does not require you to see outside of your final composition. I feel your pain. I don't understand all the extra veiwing in film cameras. I can't see the boom mic being that important a thing to worry about. I have shot plenty of films on video with a boom with no problem. And forget about the ground glasses with a million veiwing lines on it...Super 16, Regular 16, TV, 1.85, Cross Hairs...Those are completely ridiculous in my opinion. I have spoken to some other filmmakers, that although have not expressed the same dislike for complicated open ground glasses, have explained they messed up framing a few times on ground glasses like these.
Posted 04 October 2007 - 10:53 AM
Posted 04 October 2007 - 12:08 PM
Posted 04 October 2007 - 01:11 PM
I haven't had the pleasure of protecting for multiple aspect ratios yet, sounds like a lot of fun...
That is interesting, I was thinking just yesterday about this subject. I can't think of a single project I've worked on in the past several years that wasn't protecting for multiple aspect ratios. Features frame for widescreen projection, but are cognizant of future fullscreen SD TV exhibition. TV projects are often still framed for SD fullscreen, yet protect for HD widescreen.
And even on that ground glass there were a few set of lines very close together, so it took our first set of dailies to prove which was 1.85 and what wasn't.
You should have shot a framing chart and made sure the lab/telecine used it - that way you are telling them what framing you are using, rather than let them tell you, like it sounds like you did.
Posted 04 October 2007 - 06:52 PM
thanks all for your responses. very helpful.
Posted 04 October 2007 - 09:47 PM
framing chart was not the issue.
I'm sorry if I was not clear. My comment on a framing chart was not directed toward you, it is not relevant to your problem. It was in response to another poster's comments in this thread.