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#1 Clint Nitkiewicz Hernandez

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 07:29 PM

Im wondering if Halogen lights are an ideal solution for cheap lights for a feature film. They can be bought for under $20 at home depot, and give off a white light, sometimes followed by a blue tint,

but I know florescent are out of the question, Im wondering about Halogen, is there anything unknown to the naked eye that could be seen at 1080i or 24p after capture?

Thanks.

Also what are other cheap lighting solutions, and Im not talking about low cost lighting kits, I mean bulbs bought at like Home Depot or flood lights from a hardware store. Thanks.
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#2 Michael Nash

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 08:22 PM

Halogen lights ARE tungsten lights. They work just fine for filmmaking.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Halogen_lamp

There have been numerous threads about hardware store/DIY lighting here, so try a search.

Flourescents are not out of the question either, as long as you can manage the color correction with the proper gels.
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#3 Clint Nitkiewicz Hernandez

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Posted 03 November 2007 - 09:38 PM

Wow thanks so much, didnt know they were tungsten, Im off to home depot! Thanks.
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Posted 04 November 2007 - 03:29 AM

Nothing is out of the question if it serves you and the film well.

Fluorescents and their green spikeyness are often desired in many films, and even faked using Kinoflo professional fluorescent fixtures. So if it works, then use it!

Also, if you want these sources to appear as "normal", you can always white balance for them or correct using gels.
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Posted 04 November 2007 - 10:00 AM

Is there a DIY guide in the internet on how to make barn doors for the Home Depot halogen lamp? Thanks.
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#6 Valerio Sacchetto

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Posted 04 November 2007 - 11:08 AM

Is there a DIY guide in the internet on how to make barn doors for the Home Depot halogen lamp? Thanks.


Google power at its best http://www.bealecorn.../barndoors.html :D
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#7 Jonathan Bowerbank

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Posted 04 November 2007 - 01:38 PM

Go to Richard Andrewski's website at coollights.biz, I seem to remember he showed how to convert halogen shoplights.

In fact, here's the link to his template: http://www.coollight...eActualSize.jpg

And the video on how to do it: http://www.coollight...ess/archives/21

Edited by Jonathan Bowerbank, 04 November 2007 - 01:40 PM.

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Posted 06 November 2007 - 02:40 PM

Is someone who buys a $9 halogen worklight, really going to spend the money to buy a barndoor kit? Why not just buy a used Mole or Colortran broad or nook light?
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 04:19 PM

I bought a couple of these on a whim after reading this:
http://www.shutterta...les/diylighting
They work great with some flags and a bounce for quick and dirty softlight. I'd be interested to know if anyone has found the daylight balanced bulbs referenced in the above article, though. The ones they speak of seem to only be available in Australia, and run on 240 volts. Surely there must be some US equivalent. A modestly bright, super-cheap daylight source would be amazing when there's no budget for HMIs.
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Posted 07 November 2007 - 06:22 AM

Where did it say the bulbs were daylight balanced? I read 3200 deg., it's halogen temp. not daylight. The tint on the bulb could be some type of filter coating to remove light in a certain spectrum or it could be pure B.S. Just another article showing the use of worklights. This has been discussed here again and again. The search function will produce similar threads.
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#11 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 08 November 2007 - 08:06 AM

The only thing about linear halogen floods (anything with a long thin lamp in it) is that they cast a harder shadow vertically than they do horizontally.

Otherwise I've used these:

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..quite extensively and with barndoors on them it's a perfectly reasonable item. I've heard them called Sun Floods colloquially among some people I know but I don't know if that's even a nationally, let alone internationally-understood term.

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