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#1 Michael Waite

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 07:20 AM

I visited a friend today & he was telling me about some Super 8 Kodachrome that processed badly. It was 1980s stock that he had sourced from a variety of sellers. 5 rolls were exposed & processed & they were blank. As in clear, see through film.
I've had some very old K40 processed & it had a colour shift but there was a strong image. I was having trouble believing him & thought he had his words mixed up, so I got him to show me. Sure enough, we unrolled the start of one roll & it was see through clear. Celluloid with no emulsion. He had been thinking it was due to the age of the stock but I told him that was absurd. I'm sure the lab has run it through the wrong chemistry - E6 perhaps. As I said he had bought the film from several places so it can't be blamed on a bad batch.
Any thoughts on this? It was processed in the last month or so.
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#2 Michael Lehnert

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 08:21 AM

You state that the K-40 in question were developed last months or so. This means that it could only have taken place at Dwayne's in KA, USA who is the only remaining K-14 processing lab (apart from one/two others who focus their business on specific film saving/restoration development).

I highly doubt that a lab as specialised on K-40 and the K-14 process would develop a batch of film cartridges which after all were K-40 stickered wrongly through E-6? That would be quite a cock-up.

Any other info on the background of the cartridges in question (exposed with what, bought on eBay, probably not cool-stored, etc) to help shed light on this matter?
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#3 Michael Waite

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 10:25 AM

You're correct - it was Dwayne's of course, & it would be quite a cock up & that is why I am asking for opinions. What else could cause such a result? The film was bought on ebay from several sellers. It was shot in a Canon 1014. The same guy has been shooting Tri-X in that camera & having it processed locally with good results. Like I said it was old 80s stock & unlikely to have been cold stored but the worst I would expect to see would be colour shifts or faint images, not to be able to see right through it.
As it happens I just got a roll of 2005 Kodachrome back today. Had a quick check of the start of the roll against a lamp & the image looks fine.
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#4 andy oliver

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 06:46 AM

I visited a friend today & he was telling me about some Super 8 Kodachrome that processed badly. It was 1980s stock that he had sourced from a variety of sellers. 5 rolls were exposed & processed & they were blank. As in clear, see through film.
I've had some very old K40 processed & it had a colour shift but there was a strong image. I was having trouble believing him & thought he had his words mixed up, so I got him to show me. Sure enough, we unrolled the start of one roll & it was see through clear. Celluloid with no emulsion. He had been thinking it was due to the age of the stock but I told him that was absurd. I'm sure the lab has run it through the wrong chemistry - E6 perhaps. As I said he had bought the film from several places so it can't be blamed on a bad batch.
Any thoughts on this? It was processed in the last month or so.


Was the film actually exposed, is/was the camera in working order, did the word 'EXPOSED' appear at the end of the film, was the camera a brown nizo sound camera?. Please can i ask, why do people mess with 20-30 old film???? 64t is soo cheap to purchase, if you wish to shoot k/c why not purchase cinechrome 40 in the std 8 format its fresh and dated 4/2008....

I've had a few blue lines with Dwaynes, earlier this year, since then they've process 80-100 rolls of k/c, all perfect. Somehow i very much doubt the lab messed up in any way......
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#5 Alessandro Machi

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 03:57 AM

Lets not browbeat someone for asking a logical question, plus the best way to find out if perhaps Dwanyes might have had a bad day is to post one's experience here. Also, the poster is not accusing anyone of anything, they are just asking a question.

What hasn't been mentioned or asked about the clear film is what was shot with the film?

It is rather difficult to completely overexpose kodachrome 40 but it can be done if one shoots in the middle of the day with the f-stop completely open, or even around an f 2.0-2.8.

I would also project or view the all the film to verify that there is absolutely nothing on the film at all.
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