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#1 Niki Mundo

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 04:03 PM

I just won this camera on ebay, it have a rack-over viewing viewfinder..is that pretty precise? Also it takes C-mount lenses.. alot of video security cameras have C-mounts, can I just put one of those onto this 1960's era 16mm camera. Who makes the sharpest C-mount lenses?

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#2 David Auner aac

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 04:17 PM

Also it takes C-mount lenses.. alot of video security cameras have C-mounts, can I just put one of those onto this 1960's era 16mm camera. Who makes the sharpest C-mount lenses?


Yes, you can. But best use the search feature, you'll find loads of discussion on these topics!

Cheers, Dave
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#3 Ole Dost

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 05:33 PM

Yes, you can. But best use the search feature, you'll find loads of discussion on these topics!

Cheers, Dave



Best c-mount lenses are those made by Schneider or Kern. Sometimes you also get Zeiss Tevidon on EBay. Great as well. DO NOT USE the video-lenses with c-mount! They are not built for the high resolution of the 16mm Film!!
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Posted 25 February 2008 - 03:20 AM

Best c-mount lenses are those made by Schneider or Kern. Sometimes you also get Zeiss Tevidon on EBay. Great as well. DO NOT USE the video-lenses with c-mount! They are not built for the high resolution of the 16mm Film!!



Actually, the Tevidons you mention are indeed "video" lenses. But made for 1" video, so they easily cover Super16, and are supposedly very sharp. I will have a set of 10mm, 16mm, and 25mm Tevidons shortly (already own the 10mm, and just won the two others on Ebay, and waiting for them to ship).

So I cant comment on thier resolution and usefullness until I recieve them, and shoot some resolution charts. After which I will give my results, and perhaps attempt to post some transfered footage.
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#5 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 03:14 PM

Actually, the Tevidons you mention are indeed "video" lenses. But made for 1" video, so they easily cover Super16, and are supposedly very sharp. I will have a set of 10mm, 16mm, and 25mm Tevidons shortly (already own the 10mm, and just won the two others on Ebay, and waiting for them to ship).

So I cant comment on thier resolution and usefullness until I recieve them, and shoot some resolution charts. After which I will give my results, and perhaps attempt to post some transfered footage.



I'd be careful about using them shooting colour. Years ago I used a C mount video lens to shoot B & W 16mm, it wasn't stunning, but was OK. However, it was terrible shooting colour.
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#6 kevin jackman

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 08:27 PM

you really shouldnt use kern-switar RX lenses on your camera unles syou find a way to stuff a 9.6mm block of BK7 optical glass inthe film path. this will correct the image. the non RX lenses are ok. i have a couple of arriflex standard mount to c mount lens adaptors i use. you can get zeiss and schneiders then. having said that, the modern schneider c mount lenses are very good quality from what i hear but hard to fid unless you buy new. dont use video lenses unless you want to waste the whole point of using film to begin with. ive heard mixed thoughts on the zeiss tevidons. you really need to try them first or see some examples. according to the current seller of tevidons, dr optics, the image circle is 16mm wide...not 1 inch.
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#7 Leo Anthony Vale

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 02:58 PM

the image circle is 16mm wide...not 1 inch.


The 1" is the diameter of the Vidicon tube. The target area is smaller.

& yes Vidicon tubes have been replaced with CCDs, but the terminolgy has lingered on.
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#8 kevin jackman

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 03:00 PM

perhaps there were different tevidons. actually, i recll seeing different looking tevidons with the same focal length. check out docter optics for info on the most recent models
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#9 Mark Dunn

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 08:12 AM

Many CCTV lenses don't have a focusing rack, so watch out for that too.
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#10 David Auner aac

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 12:16 PM

dont use video lenses unless you want to waste the whole point of using film to begin with.


Hi Kevin,
what do you mean by that? Are you talking resolution?

Cheers, Dave
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#11 kevin jackman

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 01:34 PM

color, resolution and sharpness will all be bad
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#12 David Auner aac

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 02:10 PM

color, resolution and sharpness will all be bad


Well, I think using a video lens on a 16mm camera might be a nice idea actually. Resolution won't be as good of course, but it might have a nice touch to it. And why should color be bad? Contrast won't be as good, yes.

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