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#1 Tim O'Connor

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 10:33 PM

In the credits for "The Last King Of Scotland" Panavision is credited as the camera
system but in the behind the scenes footage that I saw, there were definitely Arris
and maybe something else at one point but nothing that looked like any camera
from Panavision.

Also, I've heard somewhere that the movie is not exclusively Super 16mm as
reported but has some 35mm. footage. Does anybody know about this? I read a
post somewhere that claimed that some of the early footage in the story in Scotland
is in 35mm.. Also, in one of the behind the scenes shots in Uganda, I caught a quick
glimpse of what looked like an Arri BL-3 or BL-4 (It was partially obscured so I couldn't
tell even on a freeze frame but the part of the mag that I saw looked a lot more like
a 35mm. BL mag. than the back of one of the SRs I saw on several other behind the
scenes shots.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 10:37 PM

In the credits for "The Last King Of Scotland" Panavision is credited as the camera
system but in the behind the scenes footage that I saw, there were definitely Arris



Panavision rent Arri's and are Arri's biggest customer.


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#3 Tim O'Connor

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Posted 01 January 2008 - 07:53 AM

Panavision rent Arri's and are Arri's biggest customer.


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Oh, it's a credit for Panavision the company and not its cameras per se.

Thanks.
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Posted 01 January 2008 - 02:53 PM

Also I don't think it's uncommon to see a mix of both brands of camera on any given medium-to-large-budget production, where you might have the luxury of multiple cameras for different purposes and applications. I guess the fact that panavision buys arri cameras explains that too.
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#5 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 01 January 2008 - 06:26 PM

Also I don't think it's uncommon to see a mix of both brands of camera on any given medium-to-large-budget production, where you might have the luxury of multiple cameras for different purposes and applications. I guess the fact that panavision buys arri cameras explains that too.


Panavision buys 35mm MOS Arris like the 435 and 235 because they make no equivalent. But the 35mm sync-sound cameras they carry are usually their own Panaflexes. However, in Super-16, they only made a few Elaines (a shrunken Panaflex, only really good for studio work, like for sitcoms) so they also have Aatons and whatnot for rent.
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Posted 04 January 2008 - 11:31 PM

Panavision buys 35mm MOS Arris like the 435 and 235 because they make no equivalent. But the 35mm sync-sound cameras they carry are usually their own Panaflexes. However, in Super-16, they only made a few Elaines (a shrunken Panaflex, only really good for studio work, like for sitcoms) so they also have Aatons and whatnot for rent.



Thanks, David. I didn't even know that Panaflex doesn't have MOS cameras.

I have heard of the Elaine and was pretty excited to think about a 16mm Panaflex camera until I saw pictures
of them on sets and realized that they pretty much stay in sitcom type environments.
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#7 John Brawley

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 12:52 AM

Thanks, David. I didn't even know that Panaflex doesn't have MOS cameras.

I have heard of the Elaine and was pretty excited to think about a 16mm Panaflex camera until I saw pictures
of them on sets and realized that they pretty much stay in sitcom type environments.



Don't forget that the Aaton XTR PROD was originally going to be a Panavision "rental only" camera. Panavision used to own a part of Aaton and had a large hand in the development of the XTR Prod.

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 02:58 AM

Thanks, David. I didn't even know that Panaflex doesn't have MOS cameras.


Well, there's the Panastar, but that's rather obsolete.
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Posted 05 January 2008 - 06:52 AM

Panavision London rent Arricams. You can even have them fitted with PV mounts. That's how Casino Royale was supplied (shooting on S4's). When JDC was bought up by Panavision, they acquired all their Arricams. The current Harry Potter is shooting on Arricams from Panavision.
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