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#1 alexandros petin

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 06:48 PM

Hello!
If anyone watches Cold case series i have some questions?
what medium is it shot with? some scenes look like 16mm
also if it is with film do they use skip bleach process? or this look is something else?
thank you
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#2 David Sweetman

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 07:32 PM

Hello!
If anyone watches Cold case series i have some questions?
what medium is it shot with? some scenes look like 16mm
also if it is with film do they use skip bleach process? or this look is something else?
thank you

As far as I know, they don't shoot any 16, but there's a lot I don't know. Normally they shoot multi-camera, 35mm, on a small squad of panavision millenniums if memory serves; they do a lot of stylistic things (for what I would assume are "flashback" scenes - I've never seen the show), I saw 'em shooting 6 fps, skip bleach, and nets on one camera while they rolled another one clean. Not sure what stocks they shoot, that's about all I know.
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#3 Michael Nash

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 10:24 PM

The was an article somewhere (A.C., maybe?) when the show was in its first season. At that time they used all kinds of different formats and techniques to evoke the different eras; 35, 16, reversal, Hi-8, you name it. I have no idea what they're up to now.
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#4 alexandros petin

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 12:43 PM

Thank you for the answers

Well im not sure which season is being shown here in greece. ill have to check it
but the opening titles are the same i think between seasons
anyway what i see and i dont know how to explain it is that the highlights are burnout the contrast a bit high but still the color saturation looks normal. so i thought it was skip bleach used but still i was expecting desaturated image.
anyway it must be complex to understand because i think they use lots of post to their footage.

i searched the forum and found some info about skip bleach and also i have seen for example Amores Perros which has scenes that have skipped bleach.any other movie i could see??
im trying to see if skip bleach is the right way to go for a micro budget short im self processing.

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#5 Michael Nash

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 04:27 PM

Cross-processed reversal film will yield high contrast and saturated/shifted colors. They use this technique sometimes in CSI Miami.

http://en.wikipedia....i/Bleach_bypass

http://en.wikipedia....ross_processing

You'll get different results depending on whether you do a skip bleach on the negative or on the print. Silver-retention techniques leave excess silver on the film, which makes the highlights on the negative go brighter (burn out), or shadows on a print go darker (of course this changes your density, so you'll want to do some research on proper exposure for the technique you chose).

We've discussed silver-retention techniques many times here, so you can find more info if you search for "bleach bypass," "skip bleach," "ENR," "ACE," and "silver-retention."
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#6 alexandros petin

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 04:58 PM

I ve done my research here about "skip bleach" and "bleach bypass"
i will go one more to completely understand things out.

thank you again for your help
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#7 Rod Otaviano

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 05:15 PM

The was an article somewhere (A.C., maybe?) when the show was in its first season. At that time they used all kinds of different formats and techniques to evoke the different eras; 35, 16, reversal, Hi-8, you name it. I have no idea what they're up to now.


A friend of mine asked me this very question a few weeks ago. I've never watched this show so I couldn't give him an answer but I pointed him to this article here:

http://www.kodak.com...4/caseP.shtml#p

... which is probably the one you're talking about.
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#8 Michael Nash

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 05:23 PM

That's a good article, but the one I recall mentioned using a home video camera for an 80's flashback as well...
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#9 alexandros petin

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 07:14 PM

Yes good link.

So they use almost everything.
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#10 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 08:19 PM

Do they actually do processing tricks on things like this and CSI, or is it just graded to go that way?
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 10:13 PM

I was on the show for about 4 years, shooting 32 of the episodes. The flashbacks in every episode are approached in a very different way, and the expectation is to create a distinct look for each episode. It tends to be a pretty experimental environment overall. I would venture to say that every media except Pixelvision has been utilized. VHS, super8, 16mm, skip-bleach, crossprocess, pushing, pulling, odd lenses. You name it.

The present day look when I was there was pretty straight 35mm timed cooler rather than warmer. Lots of long lenses and moving camera. i haven't watched it in a while so things may have changed.

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#12 Michael Nash

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 10:23 PM

I was on the show for about 4 years, shooting 32 of the episodes. ...

Paul Sommers


Thanks for chiming in, Paul!

Phil, according to a recent article in A.C. , CSI Miami does use techniques like cross processing as well as post. I can hear Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell now... ("Ain't nothin like the real thing, baby")
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