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#1 Paul Bruening

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 07:55 PM

Hello gang,

I just got this head, Mitchell NC 756 #54 35mm movie camera, off Ebay. Does anyone have any data on it's history? There were no guarantees on it. I'll have to wait and see if it's locked or burned up. It's a high number. It could be radioactive.

If you have some info, I'd love to hear about it.

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#2 Dan Goulder

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 08:29 PM

It's a high number. It could be radioactive.
Paul

Hey Paul,
Is that just a figure of speech, or do you literally mean "radioactive"? Is this for a planned 2-perf conversion?
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#3 Patrick Neary

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 09:47 PM

Hi-

I've read that Mitchell Camera Co. kept very good records of who bought their cameras and where they went, but how you get a hold of that info is something I haven't figured out yet...anyone know where to start?
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#4 Marc Alucard

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 10:07 PM

Hi Paul,

You are braver than me!! Let me know how it turns out.

I contacted the seller on Ebay asking for pictures of the front and interior of the camera. He said the camera was in a warehouse but I never got a pics.

The AEC/DOE didn't use NC cameras at Los Alamos or the Nevada Test Site to the best of my knowledge. Sorry if you are hoping for GLOW.

I have seen a pile of GC cameras and High speed 16mm Mitchells with Livermore Labs and EG&G stickers over the years.

There is a good documentary on DVD about the guys that filmed the tests.



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Posted 10 January 2008 - 10:49 PM

Hey Paul,
Is that just a figure of speech, or do you literally mean "radioactive"? Is this for a planned 2-perf conversion?


Yea. Radioactive. I've heard, hearsay, mind you, that the U.S. Navy used Micthells for pacific tests.

Please, tell me what Livermore Labs and EG&G are about. Thanks for the tip on the DVD.

This head, given that it runs okay, will get a rework from Bruce to make it into a 4-perf transport in my telecine/scan rig. He's already made-up my 2-perf head. The motor, controller, and back light will cross over, saving me money between the two and giving me two formats available for DI.
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 11:18 PM

Yea. Radioactive.

Well, if it exposes your film without even being switched on...you've got a hot one!
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 11:45 PM

I have a documentary, DVD, called "Dr. Tellers Very Large Bomb" which is about the development of the nuclear bomb and the video show several shots of Mitchells being used to capture the explosions. But I always thought they were GC (Government Camera) and not NC (News Cameras). I guess there were a few NCs used by the military but since they actually had cameras made to spec for them directly by mithcell, I dont think they used many made for the private sector. But that is speculation on my part.


BTW, I love mitchell cameras! I just wish I could use mine more.

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#8 James Steven Beverly

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 12:40 AM

You could always run some film through it with the lens cap on, have it developed and see if there's a lotta little white speckles all over each frame, or find a buddy with a Geiger counter who owes you a favor.....OR if you feel REALLY tired all the time and your hair starts falling out in clumps. that would be a good clue as well. :rolleyes:

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#9 James Steven Beverly

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 02:17 AM

How much did you end up paying this radio active beast? Hey you otta call it Godzilla!!! :D
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#10 Marc Alucard

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 02:27 AM

"Please, tell me what Livermore Labs and EG&G are about."


EG&G History


Lawrence Livermore Labs was the only entity that detonated the weapons at the Nevada Test Site.

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#11 Paul Bruening

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 02:33 AM

$995.00 + $85.00 S&H.
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#12 James Steven Beverly

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 02:48 AM

Not bad, not bad at all buddy, congrats!!! B)
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#13 Annie Wengenroth

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 05:13 PM

Oh my god. That is one of the coolest goddamn things I have ever seen in my entire life. That's really all I can say about it right now, perhaps ever. :blink:
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Posted 11 January 2008 - 05:56 PM

Hi-

I've read that Mitchell Camera Co. kept very good records of who bought their cameras and where they went, but how you get a hold of that info is something I haven't figured out yet...anyone know where to start?


Hi,

Joe Dunton bought the Mitchell Camera Co & has all the records. I spoke to him 5 years ago and he was able to tell be the date of delivery of 2 cameras I asked about. He was planning to put the information on the web, but that has not happened yet. As his company was recently bought by Panavision.

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#15 James Steven Beverly

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 11:07 PM

Oh my god. That is one of the coolest goddamn things I have ever seen in my entire life. That's really all I can say about it right now, perhaps ever. :blink:

Don't sugarcoat it Annie, tell us how you REALLY feel. :D
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Posted 12 January 2008 - 02:12 PM

I have a documentary, DVD, called "Dr. Tellers Very Large Bomb" which is about the development of the nuclear bomb and the video show several shots of Mitchells being used to capture the explosions. But I always thought they were GC (Government Camera) and not NC (News Cameras). I guess there were a few NCs used by the military but since they actually had cameras made to spec for them directly by mithcell, I dont think they used many made for the private sector. But that is speculation on my part.


I pretty sure they began producing GCs in the early 50s.
The GCs are basically standards with a minor variation which I can't recall.

During WWII the military was buying loads of Standards and high speeds, so many that Mitchell had to stop making BNCs. The last pre-war run of BNCs was for the US government as lend lease cameras for the Soviet Union. After the war they discontinued the standards and concentrated on BNCs.

The Bikini tests would have used standards and high speeds rather than the GCs since they had yet to be produced. As for the for the first H bombs that would be around the time the GCs went into production, so probably a mixture of both.

the NCs would have been mostly used for sync shooting.
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#17 Marc Alucard

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Posted 12 January 2008 - 05:49 PM

To the best of my knowledge the Mitchell GC was produced 1n 1943.

The Navy used Mitchell NCs.

The AEC used Standards, High speeds, GC & GCN and SS 35mm Cameras from Mitchell.
They also used Auricons, Eyemos, Filmos, Maurers and Milliken's as well as any other camera they could get their hands on. After the war Arri IIs were used as well.

The GC is a beefier Standard that doesn't have the behind the film plane masks and aperture. I think most, if not all have adjustable shutters. The rod attachment is also different.

The GC also has two more rollers and a buckle trip. The motor door is also different.

If I'm incorrect let me know.

Everything under the plane is a camera used for Operation Crossroads at Bikini Atoll in the summer of 1946.
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Posted 12 January 2008 - 07:15 PM

I believe the GC (government camera) was a high speed (128 f.p.s.) camera.
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#19 Stephen Williams

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Posted 12 January 2008 - 07:31 PM

To the best of my knowledge the Mitchell GC was produced 1n 1943.


Hi,

I often use a 1944 Fries modified GC no 749 (ex navy) on a MOCO rig. It's a High Speed as Chuck says, I always thought the GC was basically the High Speed camera just supplied to the government.

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Posted 12 January 2008 - 07:42 PM

I believe that's right Stephen. That's why they were painted white origanlly.
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