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#1 F Bulgarelli

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 08:31 PM

How do you guys think this scenes were lit?

I really like the way they look, the first one has a really nice glow and the color temperature works perfectly for candles, it has a brassy yellow feel to it more than coral, i wouldn't be surprise if it's almost all candlelit with a soft key/ambient light. The second one, I image a huge source coming from outside. Very soft but still with good contrast.

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#2 Etienne van Leeuwen

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 10:58 AM

Ouch!!
this is a good one! Both are nice!
In the first one I see a slight reflection on the forehead and on the hear.....
- Could this be done with a china-ball, dimmed down under the candle-lights? I also noticed that the white's in the left fore-ground seem to be a little cooler than the overall look (just a little) so there is something above the women's heads?

I also don't have a coral-feeling with this one.......

The second one..... I think your right, but also a reflection on the right-hand site?

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#3 John Brawley

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 05:46 PM

How do you guys think this scenes were lit?

I really like the way they look, the first one has a really nice glow and the color temperature works perfectly for candles, it has a brassy yellow feel to it more than coral, i wouldn't be surprise if it's almost all candlelit with a soft key/ambient light. The second one, I image a huge source coming from outside. Very soft but still with good contrast.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

Francisco



Hi Francisco.

There was a great AC story on this a few issues ago. From memory, that scene was discussed. I think it was Chinese Lantern and rope light.

Remi Adefarasin is subscribed and posts here. Perhaps you can ask him.

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 05:58 PM

Hi Francisco.

There was a great AC story on this a few issues ago. From memory, that scene was discussed. I think it was Chinese Lantern and rope light.

Remi Adefarasin is subscribed and posts here. Perhaps you can ask him.

jb


Thank you John,

I'll look for the article, what do you mean by rope light?

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#5 Xavier Plaza

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 10:58 PM

Hi Francisco

As John say you could find some info at ASC magazine october 2007, when i read this article i found an interesting lines in this issue where you can find an artistic use of the nets: "Much of the film was shot with a very fine net stretched across the lens, out of wich Adefarasin cut a custom hole for every setup. Then he would tease aout some of the strands to give the hole a soft rim, throught which the key point of interest in each shot would be framed "the effects is very slight, but it adds a little mellowing to the image, especially the edges"


I think Remi Adefarasin did an terrific work

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 11:33 PM

Hi Francisco

As John say you could find some info at ASC magazine october 2007, when i read this article i found an interesting lines in this issue where you can find an artistic use of the nets: "Much of the film was shot with a very fine net stretched across the lens, out of wich Adefarasin cut a custom hole for every setup. Then he would tease aout some of the strands to give the hole a soft rim, throught which the key point of interest in each shot would be framed "the effects is very slight, but it adds a little mellowing to the image, especially the edges"


I think Remi Adefarasin did an terrific work

Xavier Plaza


Wow, that's really interesting Xavier, I got to get my hands on that issue. I wonder what kind of net he used.
There are some other amazing shots on that film. I think everything was more subtle on this film as suppose to the first Elizabeth, for instance, less use of big shafts of light through windows The one thing that remain consistent was the high angle shots, it almost seem like they had a camera dedicated for those.

Here is a couple more pictures, now I regret not seeing the movie in the big screen. I like the silk courtain and how it creates a nice shadow as she exits. One of my favorite shots.

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#7 Xavier Plaza

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Posted 10 February 2008 - 01:11 AM

They don't specify what kind of net he use, perhaps his choose after testing a lot of nets (color, density, textures, etc)... Another interesting thing is "he mounted two peanut bulb (i don't now what kind of light is, anyone knows?) on the support bars and aimed at the lens on the net" using dimmers...

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#8 F Bulgarelli

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Posted 10 February 2008 - 01:31 AM

They don't specify what kind of net he use, perhaps his choose after testing a lot of nets (color, density, textures, etc)... Another interesting thing is "he mounted two peanut bulb (i don't now what kind of light is, anyone knows?) on the support bars and aimed at the lens on the net" using dimmers...

Xavier


Now you got me going with the frames ;-)

One of the things I like about this film is the fact that eventhough it is a period piece in every possible way, it has a modern quality to it, one of the reason perhaps is because the lighting choices are very bold as well as the camera movement. I think it keeps the viewer interested, it's not like one of those period pieces where you feel as if you are looking at a picture book and everything is more formal and pictorical in a way.

I like in the last shot how she's partially iluminated by the light coming from the outside.

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#9 John Brawley

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Posted 10 February 2008 - 06:38 AM

Thank you John,

I'll look for the article, what do you mean by rope light?

Francisco



There was a recent discussion about it here

http://www.cinematog...mp;#entry215691

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#10 Xavier Plaza

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Posted 10 February 2008 - 10:18 AM

There was a recent discussion about it here

http://www.cinematog...mp;#entry215691

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Thanks for the link John, BTW great stuff on your website and flicker. Thank you very much for sharing that...



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#11 Xavier Plaza

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Posted 10 February 2008 - 10:41 AM

Francisco another link about Elizabeth Golden Age

http://www.cinematog...showtopic=26536
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Posted 11 February 2008 - 12:26 PM

The art direction and lighting in these scenes with the astrologer were FANTASTIC!

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#13 Andrew Brinkhaus

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 04:42 PM

I'm sitting here praying for Remi to chime in...
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Posted 11 February 2008 - 09:34 PM

Are the candles as seen in the above still frames a special type of candle. I have heard of the 3 wick candles been mentioned in this forum. Would that have been used.
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#15 F Bulgarelli

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 09:45 PM

They probably are, the flame looks fairly large.
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Posted 12 February 2008 - 01:23 PM

Difficult to tell on a frame grab need to see a bit of movement to see if they are two/three wick but just going on that still looks like a single wick to me.
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