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#1 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 11:35 AM

Seems things are getting bigger.


http://www.red.com/nab/epic
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#2 Emanuel A Guedes

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 11:56 AM

Yes, indeed. And here's a new topic as far as the Scarlet is concerned:

http://www.cinematog...showtopic=30372
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#3 Emanuel A Guedes

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 12:33 PM

The most funny is... Jim has got to revert the 'vaporware meaning' itself. When he's offering a credit of $17,500 to any upcoming RED EPIC customer willing or needing for a RED camera during 2008 and going with the RED ONE now. ;) I'm sorry my good forum fellows including the usual suspects -- also known as the 'naysayers group' for each day fewer :lol: but this guy is a genius and period.

Here are the specs announced now:

5k

Full frame S35mm new mysterium x sensor

1-100fps

Up to 100mb/sec REDCODE RAW and RGB recording to REDFLASH

Full size dual link HD-SDI and 2-XLR audio inputs and HDMI

Wi-fi control

Firewire 800

USB2

6 Pounds fully machined aluminum body with hybrid stainless PL mount

Compatible with most RED accessories

Fully upgradable sensor

Fully upgradable body

Fully upgradable boards

Fully upgradable mount
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#4 Stephen Williams

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 12:35 PM

Hi Emanuel,

Any idea on cost? & why would the mount need to be upgraded?

Stephen

The most funny is... Jim has got to revert the 'vaporware meaning' itself. When he's offering a credit of $17,500 to any upcoming RED EPIC customer willing or needing for a RED camera during 2008 and going with the RED ONE now. ;) I'm sorry my good forum fellows including the usual suspects -- also known as the 'naysayers group' for each day fewer :lol: but this guy is a genius and period.

Here are the specs announced now:

5k

Full frame S35mm new mysterium x sensor

1-100fps

Up to 100mb/sec REDCODE RAW and RGB recording to REDFLASH

Full size dual link HD-SDI and 2-XLR audio inputs and HDMI

Wi-fi control

Firewire 800

USB2

6 Pounds fully machined aluminum body with hybrid stainless PL mount

Compatible with most RED accessories

Fully upgradable sensor

Fully upgradable body

Fully upgradable boards

Fully upgradable mount


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#5 Emanuel A Guedes

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 12:41 PM

Hi Stephen,

No idea too. Actually, seems vague anyway. The fully upgradable mount comes from the quote:

'Fully upgradable sensor, body, boards, mount'

Maybe, I had misread and just does mean... mount included. I would stand corrected towards this direction though.

E. :-)
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#6 Stephen Williams

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 12:58 PM

I guess it's time for the RED one owners to save up some more money to upgrade to EPIC.

Stephen

Hi Stephen,

No idea too. Actually, seems vague anyway. The fully upgradable mount comes from the quote:

'Fully upgradable sensor, body, boards, mount'

Maybe, I had misread and just does mean... mount included. I would stand corrected towards this direction though.

E. :-)


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#7 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 01:17 PM

I guess it's time for the RED one owners to save up some more money to upgrade to EPIC.

Stephen


That 18 months must be up.

Looks like it'll need a different lay out for handheld, because the body is that much lighter and shorter than the RED ONE.

Does this up to "100 MB/SEC"* more or less compression, because I'm not sure if they're talking about bits or bytes because of the caps? I'd have to assume less because the "B" usually means Bytes because that's how RED and SI have referred to this in the past. Although, it could be the data rate for high speed shooting.

* in the download pdf
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#8 John Sprung

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 01:31 PM

Well, the lens mount on pretty much any camera is fully upgradable. You can put a PL mount on an Eyemo. Perhaps they've made it an Allen wrench job rather than a Bridgeport mill job.



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#9 John Holland

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 01:38 PM

Oh dear Mr Geddes you must be really pissed off now you bought a RED One ?
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#10 Emanuel A Guedes

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 03:12 PM

Not all, Mr. Holland. Take a better reading on the information above-posted:

The most funny is... Jim has got to revert the 'vaporware meaning' itself. When he's offering a credit of $17,500 to any upcoming RED EPIC customer willing or needing for a RED camera during 2008 and going with the RED ONE now. ;) I'm sorry my good forum fellows including the usual suspects -- also known as the 'naysayers group' for each day fewer :lol: but this guy is a genius and period. (...)

So, happy 'cause both RED ONE units that I will buy now they can be upgraded anytime in 2009. But if you're asking about the difference between 4K and 5K (announced as $40K), yes I think it's too much out of scope as being a true revolutionary system for indies. On that spot, you're winning the war againt us the poor ones. Those ones with no other wish than producing their own art as far as possible.
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#11 Emanuel A Guedes

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 03:16 PM

Hi Emanuel,

Any idea on cost? (...)

Stephen

I believe it's already answered on my last post.

E. :-)
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#12 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 03:27 PM

> Here are the specs announced now:

Anyone can announce specs. I can announce specs. Look:

Phil One Camera!
6K images at 500fps!
Available 2009!
$1000!

See? Amazing, eh?

I'd rather Red finished the camera they've got than tried to do something else.

P
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#13 Emanuel A Guedes

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 03:38 PM

Phil One Camera!
6K images at 500fps!
Available 2009!
$1000!

Count with my non-deposit reservation there :lol:
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#14 Max Jacoby

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 03:52 PM

Oh dear Mr Geddes

From what I hear, Mr Alvarez is how he's really called...
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#15 Matt Workman

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 04:00 PM

lol Phil
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#16 Stephen Williams

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 04:04 PM

I believe it's already answered on my last post.

E. :-)


Hi Emanuel,

The 40k rumor on RedUser is just a rumor, or has it been confirmed by RED?

Stephen
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#17 Emanuel A Guedes

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 04:09 PM

From what I hear, Mr Alvarez is how he's really called...

From what I'm reading now, you're diversifying your web interests on the infamous site too :) -- very well, be welcome! Never the less and JFYI, that letter in the middle should have any function there, correct? Your curiosity is misspelled though.
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#18 Emanuel A Guedes

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 04:12 PM

Hi Emanuel,

The 40k rumor on RedUser is just a rumor, or has it been confirmed by RED?

Stephen

Hi Stephen,

It does seem AFAIK it has been announced at NAB's RED booth.

E. :-)
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#19 Stephen Williams

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 04:25 PM

Hi Stephen,

It does seem AFAIK it has been announced at NAB's RED booth.

E. :-)


Hi Emanuel,

If RED one is as good as the owners are saying it seems odd that there would be a need for a better camera at more than twice the price, unless of course Red has been listening to some of the usual suspects with bigger budgets :lol:

Stephen
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#20 Emanuel A Guedes

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 04:44 PM

Hi Emanuel,

If RED one is as good as the owners are saying it seems odd that there would be a need for a better camera at more than twice the price, unless of course Red has been listening to some of the usual suspects with bigger budgets :lol:

Stephen

Similar thought here :(
or a half at least... :lol:

http://www.cinematog...n...st&p=227203

(...) Only a small part can upgrade towards a $40K based system. And this does not necessarily mean the best ones. In general, the best (moviemakers) are not the 'richer' ones.

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