Posted 16 April 2008 - 10:37 AM
Here is my problem: if i send the film off to a lab as is, will they be able to untangle the film, clean it, and process it, or do I need to finished rolling film by hand?
Posted 16 April 2008 - 11:50 AM
What I would do is find a photo darkroom and get a set of rewinds and spilt reels and get in there in complete darkness and sort it out, and just do whatever you need to go onto a core with the film emulsion out, tails out. The lab people are going to be pissed off if you send them a mess of a roll and it is considered poor form. My rule of thumb is: I try not to pass my problems along to the next person, no matter how much I think I'm paying them, unless it is stated that they will solve my problems if I am at a dead end.
Edited by Saul Rodgar, 16 April 2008 - 11:54 AM.
Posted 16 April 2008 - 08:27 PM
Saul is right - this needs a darkroom to sort it out. And you need rewinds, and probably an old film editor's bin to allow the neg to collapse into, so you can rewind it from that.
However, although as it's a student film you undoubtedly don't have any budget to pay for this, I suggest strongly you try to get an experienced lab person (or an experienced loader) to handle the neg for you. Don't just parcel it up and ship it to the lab, call them and explain the problem and ask for their advice and support. Frankly, experienced people can handle film tangles relatively easily, inexperienced people are very likely to finish up destroying the film entirely. Most people have done it once in their careers though.
In fact I heard of one DoP who was interviewing a new assistant:
"have you ever dropped the core out of a roll?"
"no sir, never had any problems like that".
"well go away. come back when you have done. You won't do it a second time."
Posted 18 April 2008 - 12:02 AM
In the S16 film I shot about two weeks ago we had two assistants drop the core while lifting it out. Since we had to keep on using that changing bag for the rest of the day and the rest of the week they had to find a quick solution. What we ended up doing was slipping them an extra core, breaking the film at the place were the tangles began, and then rolling up the two separate cores.
The results were mixed, one of the rolls was pretty unusable. Much footage had been lost with all of the ripping and what was still there had markings all over it. Our director described it as if someone had taken the film and scratched it against concrete. I am pretty sure the second dropped roll came out ok besides losing footage that accounted for the breaking.
I think that most of the scratching was caused by our inexperienced loaders putting their fingers on the frames instead of the perforations.
I hope your stuff comes out alright!