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#1 Satsuki Murashige

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Posted 10 May 2008 - 09:21 PM

Hey all,

So I just got back from an HVX shoot today where we were using my laptop (Intel Macbook Pro 3.1, 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM w/ Duel Adapter) loaded with P2 Content Management Software to ingest and copy footage from the P2 card to two firewire drives in a daisy-chain configuration. Trouble was, when I ran a test download in the morning, the P2CMS software would consistently freeze halfway through an ingest and then display an error message that said the computer must be restarted. We tried restarting the laptop with the Duel Adapter already plugged in, swapping out firewire cables, no dice. Finally, we ended up simply copying the files manually by dragging and dropping the card's contents to the hard drives. The copied files would then play back fine in P2CMS. So the footage is fine, but now I'm trying to figure out what the problem was with my hardware/software and how I can fix it.

This was my first time using my laptop with P2CMS to do this, but I've done this many times before flawlessly with another DP's system, also an Intel MBP with P2CMS and my Duel Adapter. So, my question is: what is the checklist of things I should be looking at to start troubleshooting this? I'm checking that I have the most current P2 drivers, and my P2CMS is version 1.1.9, Quicktime is version 7.4.5. Should I try reinstalling P2CMS? Any other ideas? Unfortunately, I no longer have access to any P2 cards to do further tests. :(

Thanks in advance, guys.
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#2 John Brawley

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Posted 11 May 2008 - 08:58 AM

Hey all,

So I just got back from an HVX shoot today where we were using my laptop (Intel Macbook Pro 3.1, 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM w/ Duel Adapter) loaded with P2 Content Management Software to ingest and copy footage from the P2 card to two firewire drives in a daisy-chain configuration.



Did you try using a single drive ?

Was it mac or PC formatted ?

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#3 Jonathan Bowerbank

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Posted 11 May 2008 - 03:12 PM

Was it mac or PC formatted ?


Hi, I was the 2nd AC/P2 wrangler for Satsuki on this shoot.

Both drives were formatted Mac Extended (Journaled). But in the morning when we were running the tests we only had one of the drives at the moment, so we started out only running on the single drive. Didn't have time to try it out using only the 2nd drive later on.

The P2 viewer in the P2CMS program worked fine when reading directly from the P2 cards and also from the drives once we had dragged & dropped the files over. But as Satsuki said, we had a problem with the "Ingest" function of the program. It would transfer about half the files then the screen would scroll to dark with the error message to simply restart the computer.

Edited by Jonathan Bowerbank, 11 May 2008 - 03:16 PM.

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#4 Jonathan Bowerbank

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Posted 12 May 2008 - 07:40 PM

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#5 Satsuki Murashige

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 01:29 AM

So with all the P2 users out there, no one else has had any problems with the P2 Content Management Software on a Macbook Pro? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
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#6 Satsuki Murashige

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 04:10 AM

So according to Panasonic's web page, P2CMS may not be compatible with OS X 10.5 Leopard. More specifically, read/write and format functions are disabled, but then copying data from the card to a hard drive should still work, right? I realize now the previous system I'd used the program with was running OS X 10.4 Tiger... P2CMS 1.1.9 is the most up to date version for Mac, and I've now downloaded the latest P2 drivers.

https://eww.pavc.pan...pdate.htm#p2_pc

So I'll ask again, but has anyone had any luck using P2CMS to copy data from P2 card to a firewire drive on an Intel MBP running Leopard?
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#7 John Brawley

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 05:03 AM

So I'll ask again, but has anyone had any luck using P2CMS to copy data from P2 card to a firewire drive on an Intel MBP running Leopard?


Not with Lep. but with 10.4 it was no problems.

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#8 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 09:51 AM

Since you bump.

I was so blisteringly unimpressed with the software side of P2 that I wrote P2 Sanity for doing exactly this sort of work and generally sorting out the Gigantic Problem That Is P2. Unfortunately, it's windows-only.

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#9 Satsuki Murashige

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 04:30 PM

Okay guys, thanks for the reply.

Phil, how does your program differ from P2CMS? I actually like the program when I can get it to work. :(
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#10 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 15 May 2008 - 01:48 PM

The purpose of P2 Sanity was to avoid ending up with things being listed in the NLE by the per-card P2 ID. It allows you to put any and all of the metadata in the XML into the filename, so you don't end up with:

0001XF.MXF
0001GR.MXF
0001LK.MXF
0002PK.MXF
0005P9.MXF

...where the first three of those were shot weeks apart, as you do with normal P2 stuff. I haven't used P2CMS as it didn't exist when I wrote Sanity, but it gives you results like this:

scene_1_take_1.mxf
scene_1_take_2.mxf

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...etc

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#11 Satsuki Murashige

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Posted 15 May 2008 - 03:03 PM

I see, that's rather nifty. I take it f:\ in the "input" dialogue box is the P2 card, so you can rename files as you ingest them? Ever think of writing the mac version and selling it Phil? You'd probably make a decent amount of money on it.
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#12 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 15 May 2008 - 03:09 PM

> I take it f:\ in the "input" dialogue box is the P2 card,

Yes.

> Ever think of writing the mac version and selling it Phil?

No.

Sorry!
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#13 John Sprung

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Posted 15 May 2008 - 04:14 PM

Hi, Phil --

What did you use to write that? Years ago, I used to write Turbo Assembler code under DOS 3.3. With Windows, getting up to speed on programming was more work than I could justify.



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#14 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 15 May 2008 - 04:41 PM

The interface is a hypertext application; most of the back end is made up of UI and data wrangling modules of my own concoction (principally an XML parser).

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#15 John Sprung

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Posted 16 May 2008 - 12:54 PM

Thanks, Phil --

How difficult is it to learn? What would you recommend as a place to start?



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#16 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 16 May 2008 - 05:16 PM

Not very; it's a combination of website coding (for the interface) and generalised Javascript and WSH.

Hypertext appilcations
Windows Script Host

To be honest, though, the best way to do this, and the smartest place to start, would probably be JScript.Net, which is enough like Javascript not to completely throw you off, but it isn't very well supported.

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#17 John Sprung

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Posted 16 May 2008 - 06:35 PM

Thanks, Phil. That'll keep me out of trouble for a while.



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