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#1 Richardson Leao

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 05:45 AM

Hi all,

I am looking for a reflex 16mm with 30m loads and I was curious if there is anything apart from

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#2 Ian Cooper

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 06:06 AM

Arri 16s
Kinor 16SX2
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Posted 16 June 2008 - 09:48 AM

Arri 16s
Kinor 16SX2


I was thinking more like the k3/bolex type... Everything packed in a piece. But maybe the arri s...
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Posted 16 June 2008 - 10:17 AM

There's also the Kiev-16UE.
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I have one in a closet, haven't had a chance to test it out yet. It's more of a "home movie" camera but there is a motorized version.

Also, if you don't mind winding, the Kodak K-100 can be outfitted with a reflex lens and they are extremely reliable and built like a tank. The K-100 has the longest wind out of any 16mm camera I know too... it lasts almost a minute.

On the Arri S, I happened to catch the documentary "When We Left Earth" this weekend and it was wild to see a row of cameras capturing a lift off and out of the 6 or so cameras visible, like 5 were Arri S's. About 1968 or so I believe.
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Posted 16 June 2008 - 07:51 PM

There's also the Kiev-16UE.
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I have one in a closet, haven't had a chance to test it out yet. It's more of a "home movie" camera but there is a motorized version.

Also, if you don't mind winding, the Kodak K-100 can be outfitted with a reflex lens and they are extremely reliable and built like a tank. The K-100 has the longest wind out of any 16mm camera I know too... it lasts almost a minute.

On the Arri S, I happened to catch the documentary "When We Left Earth" this weekend and it was wild to see a row of cameras capturing a lift off and out of the 6 or so cameras visible, like 5 were Arri S's. About 1968 or so I believe.


I have a Kiev 16-UE though the picture you show is of the clockwork version. The UE is electric powered using about 12 AA batteries. I bought mine from Olex and he provided a special connector so I can run the camera off an AC adapter or a larger battery. I shot one roll of Fomapan with it and the camera is very noisy but it does shoot decent pictures. It uses a mirrored shutter with propriety screw mount lenses. The film spools are side by side but not difficult to load. It comes with a pistol grip so it can be used handheld. It is about as heavy as a Bolex but has a low profile. I really think the Kinor 16-SX is a better choice coming with interchangeable 100 foot or 400 foot magazines. Olex can provide variable speed and crystal speed motor modifications.

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 04:31 AM

I have a Kiev 16-UE though the picture you show is of the clockwork version. The UE is electric powered using about 12 AA batteries. I bought mine from Olex and he provided a special connector so I can run the camera off an AC adapter or a larger battery. I shot one roll of Fomapan with it and the camera is very noisy but it does shoot decent pictures. It uses a mirrored shutter with propriety screw mount lenses. The film spools are side by side but not difficult to load. It comes with a pistol grip so it can be used handheld. It is about as heavy as a Bolex but has a low profile. I really think the Kinor 16-SX is a better choice coming with interchangeable 100 foot or 400 foot magazines. Olex can provide variable speed and crystal speed motor modifications.


I have a kinor and for sure it's a fabulous camera (also modified by Olex), I just wanted something to film inside a train at rush hour. But I gues I can always smuggle my kinor... but thanks for the info.
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#7 Frank Barrera

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 05:57 AM

Perhaps it's a little bigger than you were thinking but the Aaton A-Minima is extremely low profile.
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Posted 17 June 2008 - 07:00 AM

I have a kinor and for sure it's a fabulous camera (also modified by Olex), I just wanted something to film inside a train at rush hour. But I gues I can always smuggle my kinor... but thanks for the info.


The Kiev is small but it's also noisier than your average 16mm. Unless you wrap it with a heavy coat it will get noticed. And something wrapped in a coat with a pistol grip will definitely attract attention. Watch out you don't get tased, bro.
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Posted 17 June 2008 - 11:42 AM

I have a kinor and for sure it's a fabulous camera (also modified by Olex), I just wanted something to film inside a train at rush hour. But I gues I can always smuggle my kinor... but thanks for the info.


Would have used a quiet sync camera because I think the noise is one thing that will get peoples attention.
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#10 Will Montgomery

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 11:45 AM

What about an A-Cam? Not reflex, but very small.

http://www.ikonoskop.../acam/index.asp
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