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#1 Stuart Brereton

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 08:24 AM

This link came up on CML, thought it was worth reposting....

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#2 Serge Teulon

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 09:05 AM

That is hilarious.....maybe it will stop all the emotional battles!

Film forever! ;)
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#3 Michael Lehnert

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 09:33 AM

On CML?!? Holy..., this Red vs Cine gets lower and lower...

I am unsure how a film extract (with explicit German original sound that makes bilingual watching a bit disturbing) that has as its theme the mechanised mass extermination and killing of humans on an unprecedented scale not that long ago, relates to a wannabe slapstick comment from a Dubai expat compositor on the stupid Red vs Cine debate and having a "bad day at the boutique post office"... Rotoscoping = SS torture :blink:, Hitler as rep of a cine-film chain?

At least this shows how intelligent, classy and funny Mel Brooks or Charlie Chaplin or John "Herr Hilter" Cleese once were! Lighthearted, my word!

Must be a generation thing, I guess :huh: .

Since these Red vs Cine threads spilled out of the RED forum into every other themed subforum, the level of this board has really dipped a bit.

-Michael


*Expects flaming for these comments as being an unwitty & unfunny Kraut*
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#4 Serge Teulon

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 09:46 AM

Michael,

That's a bit heavy!
I don't think that that was the meaning behind this......
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#5 Michael Lehnert

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 09:52 AM

Michael,

That's a bit heavy!
I don't think that that was the meaning behind this......


Hey,

I know, Serge, that this wasn't the meaning behind this!

But that is exactly my point...

As I said, must be a generation thingy :)

Salut à toi,

-Michael


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#6 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 09:58 AM

I though it was hilarious... it's the juxtaposition of the trivialness of commercial filmmaking over the biggest horror of the 20th century that makes it funny. Besides, Monty Python weren't above making Hitler jokes.

It helps, however, that I can't understand German.
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#7 Michael Lehnert

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 10:18 AM

It's exacty that juxtaposition that worked well for Chaplin, Brooks or Cleese, but with original material and never devoid of a unmistaking political message they wanted to hammer home.

As I wrote above, John Cleese as "Herr Hilter"... glorious (I have a YouTube link, but am not at my personal machine right now). Or "The Funniest Joke in the World" sketch... great!

Not sure that the motivation for the juxtaposition here is of the same league and kinda... well, dare I say it..., c'mon Michael, you can do it... it's just the t-word..., *breath*..: "tasteful".
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#8 Stuart Brereton

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 10:46 AM

It's exacty that juxtaposition that worked well for Chaplin, Brooks or Cleese, but with original material and never devoid of a unmistaking political message they wanted to hammer home.

As I wrote above, John Cleese as "Herr Hilter"... glorious (I have a YouTube link, but am not at my personal machine right now). Or "The Funniest Joke in the World" sketch... great!

Not sure that the motivation for the juxtaposition here is of the same league and kinda... well, dare I say it..., c'mon Michael, you can do it... it's just the t-word..., *breath*..: "tasteful".


Well, I'm certainly sorry to have upset you, Michael, by posting this link. However, I have to say that perhaps you are taking it a little too seriously.
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#9 Dan Goulder

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 10:53 AM

For what it's worth, this excerpt is from "Downfall", an excellent movie shot on... 35mm film.
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#10 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 11:12 AM

For what it's worth, this excerpt is from "Downfall", an excellent movie shot on... 35mm film.


And director Oliver Hirschbiegel's most recent production is shot on Super 16 film.
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#11 Richard Boddington

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 11:14 AM

One of the most hilarious things I've ever seen!

"Digital commies!!" I always knew Hitler was a film supporter, with an endorsement like that how can film loose?

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#12 Tom Lowe

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 11:18 AM

Man, what are you some of you film diehards going to do when Sony, Panavision, Arri, etc, start churning out 4K+ RAW digital cinema cameras? I notice that "Red" and "Jannard" have sort of been adopted here as boogymen. :)
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#13 Stuart Brereton

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 11:28 AM

Man, what are you some of you film diehards going to do when Sony, Panavision, Arri, etc, start churning out 4K+ RAW digital cinema cameras? I notice that "Red" and "Jannard" have sort of been adopted here as boogymen. :)


This clip is a JOKE, nothing more. It is just as scathing about film as it is about RED. Let's not use it as yet another excuse for a pointless row about film vs. digital. Jeez.
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Posted 04 July 2008 - 11:39 AM

I thought it was great Stuart , you must remember that Americans dont get sarcasm or anything subtle , just look at the rubbish so called comedies we get to watch released over here. :(
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#15 Richard Boddington

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 11:46 AM

Man, what are you some of you film diehards going to do when Sony, Panavision, Arri, etc, start churning out 4K+ RAW digital cinema cameras? I notice that "Red" and "Jannard" have sort of been adopted here as boogymen. :)


Not buy or use one. Next question.

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#16 Tom Lowe

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 11:46 AM

This clip is a JOKE, nothing more. It is just as scathing about film as it is about RED. Let's not use it as yet another excuse for a pointless row about film vs. digital. Jeez.


I'm not even talking about the clip! Jeez. I saw it yesterday at reduser and loved it.

I'm talking about the convenient target that "Jannard" and "Red" make for chemical film lovers here. They have become the de facto boogymen for anti-digital people. My point was, once this 4K+ technology saturates the cinema industry, who will be the boogyman?
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#17 Gus Sacks

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 12:08 PM

I thought it was great Stuart , you must remember that Americans dont get sarcasm or anything subtle , just look at the rubbish so called comedies we get to watch released over here. :(


Haha! <_< Echeeemmm.

I thought it was great. :rolleyes:
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#18 Serge Teulon

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 12:10 PM

I'm not even talking about the clip! Jeez. I saw it yesterday at reduser and loved it.

I'm talking about the convenient target that "Jannard" and "Red" make for chemical film lovers here. They have become the de facto boogymen for anti-digital people. My point was, once this 4K+ technology saturates the cinema industry, who will be the boogyman?



apparently it might be......
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#19 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 12:15 PM

Jeez, this tit for tat is getting really annoying. Everyone is to blame for it. Taking a shot at "chemical film lovers" and "anti-digital people", Tom, is no better than taking a shot at RED or Jannard, so how is that counterattack going to help mend friggin fences???

All it does is add to the continual drawing of lines in the sand.

Someone is going to have to start acting like an adult here and knock it off. Tom, you can't be responsible for the other guy if he doesn't want to grow up.
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#20 John Holland

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Posted 04 July 2008 - 12:16 PM

Glad you did Gus . :lol:
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