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#1 Ernie Zahn

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 01:04 PM

This topic has been run into the ground, but I was wondering if for sure in past few months people have sent S8 film to WalMart to get processed. I don't want to attempt it until I know someone has done it recently. I don't want this film to be lost by clerical error at WalMart because they don't know what to do with it. Please let's not start a debate about the morality of processing at WalMart. A straight answer will be much appreciated.
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#2 Chris Burke

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 01:56 PM

This topic has been run into the ground, but I was wondering if for sure in past few months people have sent S8 film to WalMart to get processed. I don't want to attempt it until I know someone has done it recently. I don't want this film to be lost by clerical error at WalMart because they don't know what to do with it. Please let's not start a debate about the morality of processing at WalMart. A straight answer will be much appreciated.



I have never sent my film to walmart, I've just dealt directly with the lab itself. Why not do the same? Is it color reversal? Send it to Dwayne's directly.
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#3 Will Montgomery

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 02:24 PM

I have never sent my film to walmart, I've just dealt directly with the lab itself. Why not do the same? Is it color reversal? Send it to Dwayne's directly.

Nooooooo! Not another Walmart thread!!

I send everything to Dwayne's directly, but the reason to use Walmart would be half the cost and no shipping costs even though it takes longer.

The reason not to would be if you admit it here you'd start one of these threads.
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#4 Art Leal

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 02:24 PM

I would definitely recommend Dwayne's as well

I used to hand deliver/pickup my Ektachrome 64T at PAC Labs here in NYC but have started using Dwayne's myself. Quick turnaround and they prep the film for telecine for free. I sent them two rolls for development and they returned them on a 200 ft roll.

The color was an improvement as well (warmer) since I usually see a blueish overall hue when I went with PAC lab, which I hear has to do with the development process used.
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#5 Ernie Zahn

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Posted 19 July 2008 - 10:23 AM

Nooooooo! Not another Walmart thread!!

I send everything to Dwayne's directly, but the reason to use Walmart would be half the cost and no shipping costs even though it takes longer.

The reason not to would be if you admit it here you'd start one of these threads.


Again, I'm not asking about the morality of the issue. I simply want to know if they still offer that at WalMart. I've always used Dwayne's. Been using them for four years now. But I'm making a feature length Super-8 film right now and it averages about 20 rolls a month to shoot. I simply can't afford this and then do telecining on top of it. I'm using WalMart because I'm running out of options and they just raised the price of processing by a dollar at Dawyne's. I still have to pay for college in the fall. We're trying to get investments but for now we're paying out of pocket and we need to cut corners somewhere.

I don't want to use WalMart because I'm really opposed to those kinds of places, but I need to know if that's an option (if I can't get financing) because making this film means a lot to me.
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#6 Will Montgomery

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Posted 19 July 2008 - 09:31 PM

I just said "Nooooooo!" because the morality of using Walmart always seems to come up and I really don't care. Plenty of good and plenty of bad about Walmart.

You can use Target as well if that will make you feel better. In fact, even your corner Walgreens or CVS will probably take your film. As long as it's reversal you should be fine.

The only other downside that I know of using any of these is that they generally don't prep the film for telecine. The send each roll back separately and not spliced together like sending DIRECT to Dwaynes does.
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#7 Gerald Moore

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 01:18 AM

... But I'm making a feature length Super-8 film right now and it averages about 20 rolls a month to shoot. I simply can't afford this and then do telecining on top of it. ...


You should contact Dwayne's directly regarding "volume discount". It's worth a try at 20 or more rolls.
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#8 Jim Carlile

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 04:30 AM

I'd imagine a test roll would answer the question if you have time-- really the worst that would happen is it would come back-- write your name, address, and store number on the cartridge.

As far as the morality-- WalMart ain't making any money on the deal at $4.99. No one else is offering the service so it's not like you're taking food out of their kid's mouths. And Dwayne's-- well-- if Dwayne's themselves negotiated a deal with Walmart, what is unethical about using it?

Nothing.
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#9 Alessandro Malfatti

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Posted 22 July 2008 - 12:53 PM

Huh... Does anyone know whether I can get my film developed via Wal-Mart here in Mexico?
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#10 kevin jackman

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 10:22 AM

morality and walmart? we use chemistry as an integral part of image capturing, we use vehicles to get to and from locations and feed the capitalist machine through general existence. im a socialist but really i don;t get why people bag on walmart so much. is it because of their size? if so, i dont think size dictates severity. id rather do business with a huge chain that was soclially and environmentally concious as opposed to a small chain or ma and pa store that was the opposite. im not saying walmart is those thing but i am asking what yardstick they are being compared to that isnt just verbal rhetoric for the sake of it. i remember stumbling across a site that showed the community engagement that walmart gets involved with wherever a location is. it made this cynic impressed.
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#11 Joe Briggs

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 10:43 AM

im a socialist but really i don;t get why people bag on walmart so much.


Ha...that's funny.

Maybe it is because they hand you a welfare application for health insurance when you apply to work there.

Maybe because they perpetuate child labor in 3rd world countries, drive small business out of towns, etc, etc, etc...

The Walton family is one of the richest on the world, yet they give almost no money to charity.

The list goes on and on and on.

I wouldn't be caught dead in a walmart. I'd rather starve then support them in any way.
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#12 kevin jackman

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 02:13 PM

yeah i'll bet if you were starving and it was the only place to eat you'd be there. it's easy to say nice socially minded stuff until the chips are really down. besides, you can say that about any corporation. when people start complaining about how much people give to charity i always say compare your own percentage of donations vs wealth to that of the rich folk. nobody ever does that. like it or not, democrats statistically give less to charity than conservatives, people in small towns give more than those in cites. can we stick to the topic of the site? id suggest filing other complaints with adbusters. they might listen. sorry to be like this but when i hear people whining i just get sick of it. i guess it's my own whine.
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#13 Joe Briggs

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 03:19 PM

can we stick to the topic of the site?


Sounds good.

You went off topic with your post and I was just responding to your question: "I don't get why people bag on walmart so much."

If you really truly don't know why people bag on Walmart, then that's really sad. Education is key. Read up on the subject and watch the documentary film "Walmart- the high cost of low prices."

Cheers

Edited by Joe Briggs, 01 August 2008 - 03:22 PM.

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#14 John Young

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Posted 04 August 2008 - 01:16 PM

Well, to answer the OP question (I think OP anyhow)...

After about 30 minutes on the phone to the very nice people at FujiFilm in Tolahoma, TN and to Dewayne's I can safely say that wal-mart DOES still do this. About the one in Mexico, i'm not sure.

Here are the details as of right now (4 Aug. 2008):

Wal-mart stated that 250' = $19.86 and each additional foot was $.10
I assume that was Super 8mm, but the order form did say 16mm too.
I will check more on that this afternoon.

There are actually two seperate orders you have to do. One for processing and one for telecine. Dewayn's Photo does processing (dwaynesphoto.com) and sends it back to Wal-mart. You can send directly to them using there order form. It is more expensive.

The telecine is actually sent to another lab (I believe, the woman at Fuji TN was a bit confused). She said this process takes 2-3 weeks. She also said that they only do Negative to VHS or DVD. But that doesn't make sense since Dwayne's only does Reversal for Wal-Mart. Whatever.

I called Dwayne's this morning and the lady there (nice as well) told me that they ONLY do what is on the order form. Seems as tho they do not process negative film.

Ektachrome/Kodachrome Movie Film Processing
Film Type Service Time Price
Super 8 64T, 50 ft. Next Day $10.00
Double 8, 25 ft. 1 Week $12.00
16mm, 100 ft 1 Week $29.00
16mm, 400 ft. 1 Week $101.00

So the entire process works like this.
Wal-Mart dropoff > Dwayne's > Wal-Mart > Pay when pick up
New order at Wal-Mart > Somewhere Telecine lab and tire care > Wal-Mart > Pay Again...

Hope that helps. Maybe some of the more experienced fellas could chime in. Seems cheeper just to send it to Dwayne's direct.
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#15 Alessandro Malfatti

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Posted 05 August 2008 - 01:42 PM

That probably confirms that Wal-Mart does not do this in Mexico... I might give them a call, but what are the odds that they go through the trouble of sending the film to the US (I don't know of a S8 reversal lab here) and back again for so few cartridges.
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#16 Matthew W. Phillips

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Posted 05 August 2008 - 09:57 PM

Sounds good.

You went off topic with your post and I was just responding to your question: "I don't get why people bag on walmart so much."

If you really truly don't know why people bag on Walmart, then that's really sad. Education is key. Read up on the subject and watch the documentary film "Walmart- the high cost of low prices."

Cheers


Grow up Joe and get on topic. No one really cares what your cultural opinion of WalMart is. I know I don't. I shop there all the time. If I needed to deal with them for film processing, I would. Does socially responsible America care if my film gets made? Of course not...so why should I give a damn what they think? Get with it man.
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#17 John Young

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Posted 06 August 2008 - 09:47 AM

I HATE wal-mart, I don't shop there, and I forbade all my roommates from shopping there.

However,

I do use there photo lab. I usually shoot black and white. I like to have my film digitized, and the Fuji machine they use is better than most places. All of the real photo labs around here have closed down. Something about all the people in the city being sheep and following the masses, thinking digital was better because that's what wal-mart sells and they don't make film anymore...

So the only choice I have is to use a good film scanner (which I really want), or pay 3.65 at the wal-mart. I usually just post the images online so people can see them and if they want prints, then I make them by hand in flesh eating chemicals in my (not set up yet cause I just moved) darkroom.

What I like about this particular photo lab is the fact that they really don't know anything about film. I say this was over developed about 1 stop, and they just look at me. I say print these to CD and pull them back one stop, and they just look at me.

I have learned the terminology to use tho. "Make me a CD of these negatives, make them lighter 'cause there real dark for some reason"

That seem to work just fine.
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#18 Jim Carlile

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Posted 06 August 2008 - 09:24 PM

Grow up Joe and get on topic. No one really cares what your cultural opinion of WalMart is. I know I don't. I shop there all the time. If I needed to deal with them for film processing, I would. Does socially responsible America care if my film gets made? Of course not...so why should I give a damn what they think? Get with it man.


What a great attitude.

BTW, this mentality is not typical of people in California. That's why there are FEW Walmarts here!
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#19 Matthew W. Phillips

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Posted 06 August 2008 - 10:26 PM

What a great attitude.

BTW, this mentality is not typical of people in California. That's why there are FEW Walmarts here!


Maybe where you're at there aren't many...hell, I'm in Sacramento and there are about 6 that I can think of.

What's wrong with my attitude? Some troll comes up basically implying that you don't shop at WalMart if you're socially responsible. Technically, if you're socially responsible you shouldn't shoot film because it uses environmental resources that tapeless digital cameras don't. I sortof get tired of everyone telling everyone what the "right" thing to do is. If you're an Eco-nut or someone who has a problem with sweatshops, don't support them but leave others alone who don't have a problem with them. Hell, how is a sweatshop any different than film crew who work just as many hours for nothing sometimes. Some grips would be glad to even get 30 cents a day. :lol:
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Posted 07 August 2008 - 09:27 AM

Does WalMart Canada do super8 processing? Or is that a fantasy?

As for the Californian attitude, not a fair comment to bring up. One can say instead they live in their cars polluting my air compared to many other states and places. Somehow that's acceptable. I know WalMart Canada has donated 12 million dollars across the country to various charities (none of which I support) and if the same is done in the states it would be 10 times that. It's more than the people on this board will ever do put together.
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