Posted 06 August 2008 - 11:50 AM
this is a resized jpg from a raw pic that i took of the place with my dslr (the metadata says it was shot at 3000 K):
this is a pic taken by the director and i presume it was tungsten balanced:
the second one shows the lights from the ceiling being much warmer than the table lights, the director wants to keep both lights on for script reasons, as i'd prefer to use just the table lights as practicals. in any case, what kind of lights are the ones on the tables? how should i match them? how should i balance them for shooting on 500t? what if i have to keep both lights on?
Posted 06 August 2008 - 01:07 PM
Call the Location and ask them to tell you what is written on the Pool Table Globes.
If they are 5500k use HMIs or Tungsten with Full... or even Half Blue. Half Blue on Tungsten would be a safe area between the Pool Table Lights and the Ceiling Lights.
Don't worry about the Ceiling Lights.. they aren't Lighting much and will look interesting on.. even when very warm. Let them go...
Be sure to shoot your Color Chart with Half Blue should you go this route.
Edited by David Rakoczy, 06 August 2008 - 01:10 PM.
Posted 18 August 2008 - 11:12 PM
And don't let the director tell you how to light unless he is a better D.P. than you, or you are getting paid. Because some times... they are a better D.P.!
Posted 19 August 2008 - 04:06 PM
besides that, i was taking some readings with my lightmeter for the wide shot that the director wants (tracking out with the talent and pan to a wide shot of the entire room). i tried to strike all the lights on the tables (i''ll have 16 tables in shot) and of course even rating my lightmeter at 500 asa (which is the 7219 vision 3 im going to shoot) i couldnt get to f 1.3 (the speed of my lenses set).
that's cause the lights are centered on the tables and the spill is not enough to get the exposure. though the reading on the centre of each table is around 2.8 and 1/5 i need to fill in with ambient light. i want to keep it low key cause i like the look of such pools of light (the table) popping out. rating the stock at 320 asa, if i shoot the scene at 2.8 and 1/5 i want the ambient to be 2 stops under so that the talent in the middle of the room will be underexposed, but with enough details. i cannot light from the top, i do not have anything fancy like space light and the only side i can light from the floor is right of camera (from the side).
will a 2.5 hmi (thru diffusion) and a 2k on a egg crate be enough?
thx for your feedback...
Posted 19 August 2008 - 04:32 PM
That said, the Pool Tables Lights can be a bit 'cooler' as they will also be hotter. That is why I (personally) don't mind seeing the 'warm' sconces in the ceiling as that helps motivate the use of 1/2 Blue on Tungsten Units (between the Warm Ceiling Lights and the Cooler Pool Table Lights.
As far as your 'Fill' goes.. just take a little more than what you think you need.. like three 10ks that you can bounce or punch thru Diffusers. That is a large (Dark) room..
Posted 19 August 2008 - 04:40 PM
for the ambient, did you mean 1K or 10K? i guess 1K...10k is way beyond the amp i can pull out of the location (no genie for this one)...
one last thing...i'll also have a couple of night exteriors under mercury vapor street lights...for that i was thinking to match them with peacock blue + 1/4 of plus green...what do you think?
thx a lot...
Posted 19 August 2008 - 05:06 PM
For the Street Lights, do you mean Metal Halide (Green/ Blue) or Sodium Vapor (very Orange)?
What country are you in? What City?
Edited by David Rakoczy, 19 August 2008 - 05:06 PM.
Posted 19 August 2008 - 05:26 PM