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#1 Malik Sajid

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Posted 14 August 2008 - 01:45 AM

What is your say about a good composition? or what you concider a balanced frame?
How you compose a shot? What things you have in mind while composing a shot? Is it light, colour or what?

What are your thoughts about centerized frame, off center? When do you decide weather to compose a character in center or off center? Is it a motivation, what motivates you?

Hope you won't mind answering these long and childish questions.


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#2 Ram Shani

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Posted 15 August 2008 - 08:38 AM

i think for most of it it's a matter of taste and intuition
with one guide to serve the story.
being cinematographer you work for the director vision and the story so you need to adjust.
every one and the things he like and dislike (movies,pictures,paintings,music,light,color....)that
influence the way he compose and light.
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#3 Paul Bruening

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Posted 15 August 2008 - 11:19 AM

What is your say about a good composition? or what you concider a balanced frame?
How you compose a shot? What things you have in mind while composing a shot? Is it light, colour or what?

What are your thoughts about centerized frame, off center? When do you decide weather to compose a character in center or off center? Is it a motivation, what motivates you?

Hope you won't mind answering these long and childish questions.


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It is a very good question. It's one we, occasionally, take on here at C.com. You could do well doing a search on it.

Even with the mountain of opinion on the topic that you can get here, there is a tendency in the industry to use the same old compositions. It's not because everyone's lazy. It's just that there is a regular "language," if you will, of composition. A better word for it may be "vocabulary". The thing is, if you use the ordinary picture elements that everyone else uses, then your production can tell its story more efficiently without drawing attention to itself and wrenching the viewer out of the illusion. So, if you want to make a seamless production, just do what everybody else is doing. If you want to rattle your viewers, use increasingly unusual compositions. If that's the case, then just about anything goes.
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#4 Malik Sajid

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Posted 16 August 2008 - 05:55 AM

what is c.Com?
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#5 Ian Cooper

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Posted 16 August 2008 - 06:56 AM

what is c.Com?


"www.cinematography.com"
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#6 Malik Sajid

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 05:25 AM

what is balanced frame?
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#7 John-Erling Holmenes Fredriksen

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Posted 19 August 2008 - 09:20 AM

what is balanced frame?


Balanced Frame
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Posted 20 August 2008 - 05:17 AM

Balanced Frame



i thought that was a serious discussion
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Posted 21 August 2008 - 09:15 AM

john

great one :P
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#10 Daniel Sheehy

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 05:53 PM

What is your say about a good composition? or what you concider a balanced frame?
How you compose a shot? What things you have in mind while composing a shot? Is it light, colour or what?

What are your thoughts about centerized frame, off center? When do you decide weather to compose a character in center or off center? Is it a motivation, what motivates you?

Hope you won't mind answering these long and childish questions.


saj

I used to tell the guys I was training; 'At the end of the day, the only rule is that you must get the shot, and it must work in the project.'

You begin by learning all the guidelines - thirds, balance, leading space / lines, -ve space etc.. but your ultimate guideline is the story. And no one cares how many rules you break, if the shot strengthens the story.

For every framing rule you may hear, you will come across as many examples of where a deliberate misapplication or flouting of that rule, is used to great effect... for every story that relies on centered framing, there is a story that needs an unbalanced off center framing style..

So yes, it's all about motivation, and the story is always your motivation.
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