Any info on the 16mm camera from the Pro8mm company?
Posted 08 October 2008 - 10:49 PM
Posted 09 October 2008 - 07:55 AM
Hey, I am looking in at purchasing a 16mm camera and have been looking at the 16mm camera from Pro8mm. I am not sure if anyone has heard anything about this camera or has used it, but if so, please let me know. Thanks
To me, it appears to be just a refurbished Beaulieu R16 from the 1960s. Since it's from Pro8mm, it's sure to be way overpriced. If you like the Beaulieu, buy a real Beaulieu at a fraction of the price on eBay and have it serviced by a reputable technician.
Posted 09 October 2008 - 12:38 PM
Posted 09 October 2008 - 08:03 PM
Take a look at Arri, Eclair, Aaton, even Cinema Products CP16R.
Posted 09 October 2008 - 10:11 PM
Posted 09 October 2008 - 10:14 PM
give a look to Visualproducts.com
but basically the Arri BL, Arri S and the like. They're older, but they'll get you through. Eclairs ACL and NPRs are also popular and you may find an Older Aaton LTR-7 or 54 in that pricce range.
Posted 10 October 2008 - 01:56 PM
In terms of what to buy for a first timer:
First 16mm camera to cut your teeth on = Definitely a Krasnogorsk 3 (Price can not be beat, good to learn on because there aren't any peculiarities)
A good first or second MOS camera, which is versatile to grow in uses latter = Bolex Rex 4 or Rex 5 (I saw one being used by a professional for time-lapse outside BBC Television Centre only last week)
A good low price sync-sound camera which can be converted to Super 16 = Eclair ACL or NPR and CP-16R
A slightly more expensive sync sound option for possible super 16 conversion = Arri SRI and SRII and Aaton LTR and later.
They want $6k for a S16 body only with crystal sync (even though it is an MOS camera). You can find a lot of really good silent S16 cameras with a lens for less than that.
Right now Visual Products is selling a refurbished CP-16R for $4900 with choice of lens. Conversion to super 16 would probably not cost that much more considering it is already refurbished!
Best of luck,
Posted 10 October 2008 - 05:14 PM
They are extremely reliable, easy to use and can be handheld.
And NO WINDING. That will save your wrist some considerable pain and allows for long shots.
Downside is a fixed lens, but in the middle f-stop range it's actually quite good.
Posted 10 October 2008 - 08:17 PM
Another option for an entry level camera might be a later model Canon Scoopic.
Good one, I forgot about the old Scoopics- a great first 16mm camera. Reliable, inexpensive and easy to use.
The Bolex is also a great choice. So many inexpensive lenses and accessories are available for them and they are easily converted to S16.
Speaking of the Cinema Products CP16R, I have a nice quiet one available. Refurbished by Whitehouse no more than 1200' ago, sharp Canon 12-120 macrozoom, mags, case, battery. $1200 takes it.