Fast Dolly Moves
Posted 15 October 2008 - 08:33 PM
We did it a few times and I was satisfied, but just for future knowledge, what's the ideal way to pull off very fast dolly moves when you need two people riding with the camera on the dolly. (Thinking of the fast moves in a lot of Scorsese movies specifically, or does he just have body builders for dolly grips?)
Posted 15 October 2008 - 08:41 PM
Posted 15 October 2008 - 10:33 PM
There are several ways to do a really fast move. 2 people pushing is not at all a problem, as long as you have a system going. On the movie "The Darjeeling Limited" I had several dolly moves that ranged from 250ft to 310 ft. Most of them were really fast, flat out moves tracking with actors chasing cars, taxis and trains. We had a Fisher 10 with 3 people on board - DoP, Focus Puller and Director. I was pushing along with one of my best boy grips. It worked great. We needed 4 people to stop the dolly though. 2 of them were on "parachutes" - ropes tied from the dolly to speed rail handles. take a look
If you want to go a lot faster than you can run there are ways to do that as well. If you dont have access to motordrive track, or a captive track dolly , you can use a regular dolly on track, remote head and focus, and rope the dolly through pulleys to have a mechanical disadvantage (more speed for less distance) Run the rope to a Quad / ATV and use it to accelerate the dolly. Mark a spot to stop the Quad so you dont pull the dolly off track. Use a bungee decellerator or a cable fan descender to stop the dolly depending on the weight of the dolly.
Hope that helps
Posted 15 October 2008 - 11:21 PM
Posted 16 October 2008 - 03:23 PM
The idea of Sanjay of roping and pulleys to let the dolly move this fast has been working for me quite often.
When doing A move this fast around a person I would suggest to line-up the shot in this way that there is no need for an operator on the dolly.
If we go on higher speeds around a person I prefer to use a rotating platform (or similar) since you do not want to run the dolly of track going fast on a curved-track. The seat-swifflesupport from MSE can do a lot of good work. When you go bigger; the huge bearing which is used for trailers of lorries can do the job as well.
High speed straight tracking? get in touch with a broadcastcompany doing sports! They now their bussiness very well, depending on the payload of the camera.
Edited by Onno Perdijk, 16 October 2008 - 03:23 PM.
Posted 16 October 2008 - 05:58 PM
Edited by Michele Peterson, 16 October 2008 - 05:58 PM.
Posted 23 October 2008 - 02:24 PM
The type of moves and speed of the moves is very important information when choosing which dolly to rent.
Just curious, but in pre-pro when working out all the gear that's needed, who should actually be the one to make the call about what dolly would be the best choice? Is that part of a DPs job to know?
Posted 23 October 2008 - 04:29 PM