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#1 Colin Rich

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Posted 16 October 2008 - 12:37 PM

There's a scene in "La Haine" where the Vincent Cassel character is doing a Travis Bickle impersonation in front of a mirror. The camera starts out nearly directly behind him, and he is seemingly blocking where we would see the camera's reflection in the mirror. Then, he bends over for a moment and the camera dollies past him, staring (nearly) straight into the mirror, yet only Vinz's reflection is visible. It's a fairly wide lens, so I would think you *should* be able to see the camera.

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Any idea how this shot was done (and I believe there's a similar shot in "Jarhead," too)?

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#2 Serge Teulon

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Posted 16 October 2008 - 01:49 PM

You could always ask R Deakins for a concise answer on what he did in Jarhead.

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#3 Jason Debus

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Posted 16 October 2008 - 02:04 PM

That's a great scene. There is no mirror. Vincent Cassel is on the reflection side of the 'mirror', the first person you see is a double.
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#4 Ram Shani

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Posted 17 October 2008 - 06:03 AM

this is great trick
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Posted 17 October 2008 - 11:42 AM

That's a great scene. There is no mirror. Vincent Cassel is on the reflection side of the 'mirror', the first person you see is a double.


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#6 Jonathan Bowerbank

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Posted 17 October 2008 - 01:13 PM

Yeah, if you look closely, the first time he throws his hand up and points his fingers like a gun, they're just barely out of sync. You wouldn't notice it unless you were looking for it. But a very memorable scene. I remember seeing this film for the first time years ago, and I was immediately taken in, loved it.
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#7 Edgar Dubrovskiy

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Posted 17 October 2008 - 01:31 PM

great.
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#8 Mihai Bodea

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Posted 17 October 2008 - 04:47 PM

there are many other interesting tricks there. I kept wondering about one where you can clearly see a character rolling a cigar in close-up, in focus, and you still see La Tour Eiffel, with lights on, in the far background; and I could not detect any split focus effects.
most of all I was impressed by the poster at the beginning, with the Earth on it, that you later see on the streets to.
something else would be the use of color negative to produce such a pleasing BW image; and I can't imagine what process the used.
I kept thinking about the "La Haine" few years ago, when the riots in Paris broke out.
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#9 alfredoparra

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 11:10 AM

its dont in after effects, the clip is cut when he ducks down
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#10 World Wide Wes

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 05:09 PM

You can see the items on the shelf in front of the "mirror", they're just a bit off.
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