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#1 Paul Bruening

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 12:52 PM

I ran some searches here and didn't find the info I wanted on double run 8mm systems. What's the story on these? Do they run 16mm film or did they take some kind of specialized film stock? I'm looking at Filmo and Sportster D8s on Sleazebay.
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Posted 20 October 2008 - 01:02 PM

Double-8 is just another name for 8mm, renamed standard-8 when Super-8 came out. The 25' film is 16mm wide but is run once in each direction then split after processing. The perfs are the same size as 16mm but at half the pitch. I think the cameras you refer to are this type.
A few cameras were made to run double Super-8. The principle is the same but the perfs are Super-8.
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#3 Paul Bruening

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 01:09 PM

Double-8 is just another name for 8mm, renamed standard-8 when Super-8 came out. The 25' film is 16mm wide but is run once in each direction then split after processing. The perfs are the same size as 16mm but at half the pitch. I think the cameras you refer to are this type.
A few cameras were made to run double Super-8. The principle is the same but the perfs are Super-8.


Sorry, I'm not following you. Can a D8 camera run ordinary 16mm stock or will it require a stock unique to its design?
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Posted 20 October 2008 - 01:29 PM

Sorry, I'm not following you. Can a D8 camera run ordinary 16mm stock or will it require a stock unique to its design?


As I understand it, it's 16mm film, but has twice the number of holes on each side, so it would be unique.

I can confirm/deny this when I get home tonight and do a side by side with a strip of each.
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#5 Tim Terner

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 01:49 PM

I'm sure Foma still do a B&W D8 in 100 Paul
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#6 Paul Bruening

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 01:59 PM

Thanks, fellas. I was wondering if D8 would be a way to get around the high cost of 8mm cartridges and processing by using common 16mm film. Looks like I'm barking up the wrong tree.

The perf holes in 16mm film make it difficult to convert a 16mm camera to run the film through twice behind an 8mm gate. I was wondering if D8 had solved that. I didn't know the film was a different spec.
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Posted 20 October 2008 - 07:36 PM

Sorry, I'm not following you. Can a D8 camera run ordinary 16mm stock or will it require a stock unique to its design?


Here's a side by side visual comparison between Double 8mm Cine Chrome 100D and Kodak 7293 16mm.

http://s466.photobuc...rrent=8vs16.png
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#8 Paul Bruening

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 07:47 PM

Thanks, Art.
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#9 Richardson Leao

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Posted 21 October 2008 - 04:52 AM

Thanks, Art.

wittner also has color stocks for d8
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