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#1 David Schmüdde

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Posted 26 October 2008 - 08:30 PM

I just shot a 35mm short. I would like to store or insure my footage in case of catastrophe while I'm in post. I'd like to keep it local (Chicago) - any advice or help?

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#2 Tom Hepburn

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Posted 26 October 2008 - 09:47 PM

I'm not sure if they store footage or not, but Filmworkers/Astro would be where I'd start. If they don't, I would think they could point you in the right direction.

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Posted 05 November 2008 - 09:52 PM

I'm surprised I can't find a single person that has ever exposed film and had it sitting for months in post. Everybody I've met just gambles that it'll be fine. I've contacted insurers that have no idea what to do and the professional film lab in town (Astro) plays dumb as well.

No ideas? No one has ever shared this concern? Really? Perhaps something in LA or NYC?

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#4 K Borowski

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 06:57 AM

I'm surprised I can't find a single person that has ever exposed film and had it sitting for months in post. Everybody I've met just gambles that it'll be fine. I've contacted insurers that have no idea what to do and the professional film lab in town (Astro) plays dumb as well.

No ideas? No one has ever shared this concern? Really? Perhaps something in LA or NYC?

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From older books I've read on filmmaking, labs used to store film on-site as a standard practice. Many have/had their own film vaults. It'd then, I'd assume, be covered under their liability insurance. However, if your lab doesn't offer this service, I doubt another lab would store your footage since they didn't process it for you.

Your only other recourse wouldl be to store the negative in a long-term storage facility, which may be difficult to do too, since they are "long term" storage facilities.

What's the name of the Kodak one, Cinetech? Or you could store it in that underground vault in PA. Even here, how are you going to transport it? There is risk in everything you know., even if you have a courier deliver it to its storage location. . .
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#5 David Schmüdde

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 03:16 PM

What's the name of the Kodak one, Cinetech? Or you could store it in that underground vault in PA. Even here, how are you going to transport it? There is risk in everything you know., even if you have a courier deliver it to its storage location. . .


This is exactly right. Storing it at a long term facility would mean getting it there and doing it for a short term (6 month) purpose. It seems all the indie people in Chicago just sit on it and take their risks. The major indie film insurer has no policies available for it. I'm stunned that I haven't found a single solution. I seem to be asking the wrong people in Chicago -- someone has to be as paranoid as me.

I appreciate the response Karl.

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 03:24 PM

This is exactly right. Storing it at a long term facility would mean getting it there and doing it for a short term (6 month) purpose. It seems all the indie people in Chicago just sit on it and take their risks. The major indie film insurer has no policies available for it. I'm stunned that I haven't found a single solution. I seem to be asking the wrong people in Chicago -- someone has to be as paranoid as me.

I appreciate the response Karl.

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Well David, most people who are Indies really don't have that much to loose if their footage is destroyed compared with a $20 million feature, so perhaps this is why there isn't as much concern.

If I were you I'd look for either a film vault, an insurance policy, or both.

I am sure, though, that there've got to be some major film vaults in the Chicago area.

F&*% what the other Indies say, seek out a film archivist with a vault, and I'm sure they'd be able to help you out, maybe even for free, storing your film in a safe® place.


The name of the place in PA, I've found out, is Iron Mountain. They actually are data storage specialists too, and they actually transport sensitive material around in armored trucks, just like the armored cars they transport money in. So maybe you could see if they have some sort of local storage solution too. . .
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