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#1 Glen Alexander

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 10:26 PM

For fully edited and ready to go cut negative 35mm, about 3600 feet, B&W, print stock I want to use is 5302.

Edited by Glen Alexander, 18 November 2008 - 10:27 PM.

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#2 Glen Alexander

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 11:44 PM

or a 5-perf 70mm answer print for less than $2.65/ft

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#3 Simon Wyss

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 06:00 AM

Glen, in all respect:

I believe we can drop that obsolete thinking of Where Is it Cheapest ?

Economy works only when all participants have their just share. It is true that many products are sold at too high prices but not services. To me there is a world of difference between a vacuum cleaner (product) and a hair cut (service). Now at a movie film lab the two come mixed. The customer gets a product, footage, and at the same time inherent services from timing (if any) or special original processing over synch work to projection.

Let's try to approach it from the other side. What Do I Get for My Money ?

We have always gone further that way, and it's been my offer since we started regular business on November 1st, 1999. Fixed price and a variety of possibilities. You could have your stock treated after any desired formula. As an example, Eastman Kodak D-76 or D-96 need not be panacea. There are almost forgotten recipes like the iron oxalate of 1877 by Mathew Carey Lea, simplified by Joseph Maria Eder in 1879. I have tried it with different black-and-white stocks, even on the modern Gigabitfilm, with astonishing results.
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#4 Glen Alexander

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 04:29 AM

Glen, in all respect:

I believe we can drop that obsolete thinking of Where Is it Cheapest ?

Economy works only when all participants have their just share. It is true that many products are sold at too high prices but not services. To me there is a world of difference between a vacuum cleaner (product) and a hair cut (service). Now at a movie film lab the two come mixed. The customer gets a product, footage, and at the same time inherent services from timing (if any) or special original processing over synch work to projection.

Let's try to approach it from the other side. What Do I Get for My Money ?

We have always gone further that way, and it's been my offer since we started regular business on November 1st, 1999. Fixed price and a variety of possibilities. You could have your stock treated after any desired formula. As an example, Eastman Kodak D-76 or D-96 need not be panacea. There are almost forgotten recipes like the iron oxalate of 1877 by Mathew Carey Lea, simplified by Joseph Maria Eder in 1879. I have tried it with different black-and-white stocks, even on the modern Gigabitfilm, with astonishing results.


Es geht gut? Diese ist nicht wichtig fuer mich ueber die kostet. Fuer meine Filme, ich hattest gemacht mit eine sehr interesse film von Deutschland. Meine Filme ist keine Kodak, keine Fuji, keine Agfa... Ich muessen mit die Zeitenfrauen oder Stundefrauen (ich vergesse meine Wortzshatz). Ich bliebe im die laboratorie fuer viele Stunde. Alles ist neuer. Gestern nach mitagessen, ich sehe die erste Bildung am die VV, es ist umglaublich, wunderbahr.

Fuer meine nachst Filme, es wuerde gliechen Van Gogh mit die colours und Quijote. Die Filme ist sehr teuer Fuji Velvia uzw. ich muesse eine billiger laboratorie gewissen.

Edited by Glen Alexander, 26 November 2008 - 04:34 AM.

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#5 Simon Wyss

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 09:58 AM

Hallo, Glen

Dein Deutsch ist sooooo süß. Welches Filmmaterial hast du denn genommen? Russisches oder Foma oder Gigabitfilm?
Eine Stundenfrau ist eine Prostituierte. Ich glaube, du meinst eine Lichtbestimmerin (Timing Person).

Anyway, there is a Van Gogh exhibition now in Basel. To improve on your German, read some, but not Goethe. He was a drunkard. Friedrich von Schiller is the one.
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#6 Glen Alexander

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 01:08 AM

Hallo, Glen

Dein Deutsch ist sooooo süß. Welches Filmmaterial hast du denn genommen? Russisches oder Foma oder Gigabitfilm?


du meinst eine Lichtbestimmerin (Timing Person).


ha ha viel spass. ah ja ich vergesse auf Deutsch, viele kleine Worter fuer ein grosses Wort. licht-best-immer.

Ja meine deutsche ist eine bischen krank, keine leute spricht hier oder versteht Deutsche, so geht es weg. es gibt keine Kultur. keiner spricht oder weiss von der Kunst, Musik, Literatur, Natur... das Gesprach ist nur des haben das Geld. Ich las Jung aber nicht Goethe und nicht Wagner, er war wahnsinnig.

Mein Film ist ein spezieller deutscher Film. Keiner hat diesen Film in jedem Kino verwertet. Es ist ein spezieller fotografischer Film mit der Superentschlossenheit. Ich habe einige Freunde nahe von Berlin, Hamburg, und Dortumund. Meine Freunde wohnten dem "Photokino" in Koeln bei.

Nachdem mein Film beendet wird, werde ich von allem sprechen. Meiner meinung die Zukunft des Kinos ist fuer die Leute mit fotografischen Instinkten nicht traditionelles Kino. Digital wird Farbenfilm aber nicht schwarz und weiß uebernehmen. Aber in meinem folgenden Film wird es gegen digital sein, es, wird massive Farben der Natur wie Van Gogh gesaettigt.

Koenst Du den Fujifarbenfilm fuer die maximale (cross process?) Sattigung(?) bearbeiten?

Ich machte neuer Lyrik fuer "An die Freud" fuer meine Film.

Freude, schöner Götterfunken,
Kinder von Infinity,
wir treten erleuchtet
von Innen nach Außen hin
Deine Gestalt bindet wieder,
was die Mode streng geteilt:
alle Leute werden Eines,
wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt.

Koenst Du meine Deutschen verstehen? und der Buddhist, der bedeutet?

vielleicht jetzt werde ich einem "Rammstein" zuhoren. ha ha ha dann Beethoven, gibt es nicht mehr Musik staerker als der 9? Für mich, nein.
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#7 Simon Wyss

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 12:08 PM

Ich mache nur Schwarzweiß.

For more saturated colors why not go Fuji negative - Eastman positives.
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#8 Glen Alexander

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 02:22 PM

Ich mache nur Schwarzweiß.

For more saturated colors why not go Fuji negative - Eastman positives.



Die Fuji Velvia ist die best fuer Farbe. Es ist gleichen Ektachrome.

http://www.fujifilm....ilms/index.html

Positiv ist viel billiger. Eine Zeit mit dem Laboratorium und wird es getan.

Fuji ist mehr durchtränkt dann Kodak.

Edited by Glen Alexander, 27 November 2008 - 02:23 PM.

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#9 Tim Terner

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 04:52 PM

Glen, whilst much in awe of your expertise in Teutonic linguistics, I think it would be more appropiate on this forum to keep to English, so that the monolinguals amongst us might possibly learn something of benefit
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#10 Max Jacoby

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 05:53 PM

Glen, whilst much in awe of your expertise in Teutonic linguistics, I think it would be more appropiate on this forum to keep to English, so that the monolinguals amongst us might possibly learn something of benefit

Glen's German is indeed hilarious.
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#11 Glen Alexander

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 10:20 PM

Glen, whilst much in awe of your expertise in Teutonic linguistics, I think it would be more appropiate on this forum to keep to English, so that the monolinguals amongst us might possibly learn something of benefit


I created threaded and topic, nothing in the rules says it must be in english. Simon lives in Basel and has been the only one interested in thread. So we continue in deutsche. Perhaps you should expand your education.
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#12 Glen Alexander

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 10:26 PM

Glen's German is indeed hilarious.




Luxemburg, die schlechtesten Französen habe ich jemals gehört. Nichts kommt aus Luxemburg außer der scheisse französischen Sprache.

Sprechen der Optik geben sie mir großes Gelächter.

Bleiben zum Thema oder Posten anderswohin. Versteht.

Edited by Glen Alexander, 27 November 2008 - 10:31 PM.

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 10:32 PM

Luxembourg, which worst Französen has I ever heard. Nothing comes from Luxembourg except the bad French language. Speak the optics give they me large laughter. Remain to the topic or post elsewhere. Understands

I like it in german. . .makes it even more interesting in bablefish!

:P

I can see tim's point, though Glenn. I can understand some other languages, just sadly not german (which would make dealing with arri so much cooler!)

edit: can we at least have some translation of some of the important bits? Like what labs are the best in price/performance scenarios, if we ever get there?
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#14 Glen Alexander

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 11:01 PM

Luxembourg, which worst Französen has I ever heard. Nothing comes from Luxembourg except the bad French language. Speak the optics give they me large laughter. Remain to the topic or post elsewhere. Understands

I like it in german. . .makes it even more interesting in bablefish!

:P

I can see tim's point, though Glenn. I can understand some other languages, just sadly not german (which would make dealing with arri so much cooler!)

edit: can we at least have some translation of some of the important bits? Like what labs are the best in price/performance scenarios, if we ever get there?


ha ha close,
Luxembourg, which has the worst French I have ever heard. next sentence ok. If you've ever been there or driven through I have many times to get to Netherlands and Germany. The French is absolutely horrible. It makes the French from Marseille tolerable.

You speak of optics I get great laughs. you have to put the subject back at the beginning "sie".

Simon hasn't posted any rates for his lab, we are talking about cost/quality, and more personal items.

Lowest lab so far in Technicolor Thailand .77ft for answer prints on kodak stock.
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#15 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 11:07 PM

That was just what "babelfish" popped out from a copy and past. I keep meaning to learn German, if only to better understand certain warning labels.
Most of my time in the EU of late has been spent in Italy, and I learned when I was first there in 2000-- driving in Italy is. . .well yes. . . Perhaps one day I'll hit through Luxembourg, I actually have wanted to go there from time to time.

I would think that Thailand would in the end cost you more for shipping/insurance as opposed to keeping it close to home? Also insurance?
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#16 Simon Wyss

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 03:51 AM

(which would make dealing with arri so much cooler!)

Adrian, I fear the contrary. As soon as they notice they will start to pull you over the bench.
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#17 Simon Wyss

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 04:06 AM

Glen, our stinky lab is closed. I want to leave Europe behind me, everybody is asleep here. The french professional cinematographers forum for example is half dead, not a post in weeks. In America people react, give answers, throw mud at you, at least one is alive. It's now only to know how to attract customers among 13 other labs in Hollywood.
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#18 Andrew Koch

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 05:01 AM

I'm really curious about what you guys were talking about, however I only understand english. Would you please be so kind as to let us know what you guys were discussing.
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#19 Max Jacoby

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 05:11 AM

Glen is saying that he didn't shoot on Fuji, Kodak or Agfa, but a German stock that has never been used for cinema.

And he is right, many Luxembourgers speak French with an accent, but they are not nearly as bad as he is at German ;) Myself I don't like French at all, I had some traumatic encounters with French Grammar in school and much prefer English and German.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 05:22 AM

Glen, our stinky lab is closed. I want to leave Europe behind me, everybody is asleep here. The french professional cinematographers forum for example is half dead, not a post in weeks. In America people react, give answers, throw mud at you, at least one is alive. It's now only to know how to attract customers among 13 other labs in Hollywood.

If you insult the Americans the way you insult Europeans you won't get any customers!
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