what are good cinematographic movies to see for studying?
Posted 18 January 2009 - 01:44 PM
-I have seen days of heaven and the beginning of Manhatten.
What other ones are good?
Please and thank you
Posted 18 January 2009 - 03:13 PM
You're probably about to get deluged with lists of movies, which undoubtedly look great for lots of reasons, but just watching a movie isn't necessarily going to "teach" you anything about it.
To really learn from a movie, you'd have to have other information about it available or access to the people who were there making it. You can sit and be "wowed" by pretty movies, or you can find the information (if it exists) so you can learn from them too.
So take those inevitable lists, and before you sit down to start watching any of the films, search through the archives of magazines and websites and books that might have interviews with the DPs and others who were there.
Unfortunately, those in charge of deciding the content on DVDs don't think the public cares about the technical aspects of what it takes to make a movie, particularly the cinematography (unless it is tied to VFX), so DVD "extras" are mostly a waste of time.
Here is a list of resources for you to take a look at as you decide which movies you can learn from:
Local600forum.com A forum by, for and about Motion Picture Professionals
Below the Line Magazine Online Below the Line is a newspaper that strives to be the editorial voice of the crew. A publication that mirrors the attitude of the below-the-line crew community, providing an insider's reverence for the craft of filmmaking with all the humor and intelligence of the craftspeople it celebrates.
Cinematography.com Professional Motion Picture Camera People, News & Resources http://www.cinematography.com
Cinematography. net A place for professional cinematographers to talk and exchange ideas about cinematography.
Steadicam Operators Association http://www.steadicam-ops.com
Steadicamguild.com The Steadicam Guild was formed in September of 2002, is
an organization dedicated to the promotion and education of
the art and craft of the Steadicam http://www.steadicamguild.net
Demystifying Digital Camera Specifications, http://media.panavis...x_Office.html
The American WideScreen Museum: In the Cyber Museum we feature extensive coverage of Cinerama, CinemaScope, Technirama, Panavision, Vistavision, Superscope, Todd-AO, Technicolor, Cinecolor, Kinemacolor and other motion picture audio systems. http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/
Below the Line is a newspaper that strives to be the editorial voice of the crew. A publication that mirrors the attitude of the below-the-line crew community, providing an insider's reverence for the craft of filmmaking with all the humor and intelligence of the craftspeople it celebrates. www.btlnews.com
Backstage West www.backstage.com
American Cinematographer www.theasc.com
ICG: International Cinematographer’s Guild www.cameraguild.com
Indie Slate, www.indieslate.com
P3 Update, www.p3update.com
IATSE Bulletin, subscribe at firstname.lastname@example.org
British Film Magazine, the British Film World on one site. http://britishfilmmagazine.com
16:9, The magazine for media pros http://www.16by9.com.au
Posted 18 January 2009 - 05:54 PM
I'd suggest you watch the first movie that inspired you to become a cinematographer. Watch it over, again and again and get to understand how and why it made that strong emotional bond with you.
On a personal note though I love Conrad L. Halls genius on "Road to Perdition" and Gordon Willis's use of light in the "Godfather" but no doubt this thread will have other masterpieces added as time goes by.
Posted 18 January 2009 - 06:30 PM
If you're just looking for a list of movies with great Cinematography, that could be huge. I'll throw out a handful of my favorites:
The New World
Road to Perdition
Anatomy of Hell
Last Tango in Paris
Solaris (the original by Tarkovsky)
The Virgin Spring
Last Life in the Universe
Posted 19 January 2009 - 11:29 AM
- Apocalypse Now (!!) (Vittorio Storaro)
- Road to Perdition (Conrad Hall)
- The Deer Hunter (Vilmos Zsigmond)
- Schindler's List (Janusz Kaminski)
- The Fabulous Baker Boys (Michael Ballhaus)
But you should also take a look at the work of Roger Deakins (I would recommend "The Asassination of Jesse James..." and "O Brother where art thou?")
Edited by Henry Weidemann, 19 January 2009 - 11:30 AM.
Posted 19 January 2009 - 12:29 PM
Posted 19 January 2009 - 03:49 PM
Deakins is probably my favorite cinematographer, and his website has a user forum where you can ask specific questions and get detailed answers. I recommend No Country For Old Men as a great example.
I'm pretty new to the field myself, but I have to concede that you're not going to learn that much from watching movies. Almost everything I've learned so far, I've learned from personal experience.
Posted 19 January 2009 - 03:53 PM
The Passion of Joan of Arc
Fellini's 8 1/2
...and all of Kubrick's films!
Posted 29 January 2009 - 07:53 PM
Also, my favorite films for the visual elements are
'O Brother Where Art Thou' - Roger Deakins
'American Beauty' - Conrad Hall
'The Man Who Wasn't There' - Roger Deakins
'The Assasination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford' - Roger Deakins
'Shawshank Redemption' Roger Deakins
'Children of Men' - Emmanuel Lubezki
'Babel' - Rodrigio Prieto
'Brokeback Mountain' - Rodrigo Prieto
They are all fairly new, and you'll probably enjoy watching those too
P.S - I'm a Deakins fanatic, he is my idol.