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#1 Ross Neugeboren

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 05:29 PM

I've noticed on the Matthews scrims the border holding the scrim to the frame varies in color. I assume the fabric is coded to represent the type of fabric on the scrim. Which colors represent which fabrics?

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#2 Chris Keth

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 05:56 PM

Green is a single and Red is a double. You can tell by looking at the material closely, too. A double is just 2 layers of bobbinette while a single is one layer.
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#3 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 06:00 PM

Green is a single and Red is a double. You can tell by looking at the material closely, too. A double is just 2 layers of bobbinette while a single is one layer.


And a Single cuts a half-stop and a Double cuts a full-stop.
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#4 Ross Neugeboren

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 06:25 PM

Thanks for the responses, and the stop information.

I also have a yellow-bordered 18x24" Artificial Silk White.
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Posted 30 January 2009 - 07:21 PM

Thanks for the responses, and the stop information.

I also have a yellow-bordered 18x24" Artificial Silk White.


That would be a silk flag. For diffusion purposes obviously. In film school we called them China silks. I would hope the yellow frame means it's different from a non-yellow silk. Otherwise, there is something inherently (slightly) racist by calling something 'yellow' chinese.

On the topic of flags, perhaps it was chance, but I've been on many a set, and just this weekend the double nets (which were provided by the production) were white!

I kept bitching to my gaffer/assistant that I hadn't seen the double nets all day and he should find them. Little did I realize they were white! I'm not talking about the rim either. The actual netting which restricts the light, was not black. So at a distance they looked like diffusion silk.

I felt dumb but was fascinated that they made white double nets.

I hope I never see them again! :lol:
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#6 Michael Collier

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 09:01 PM

white double nets? that is odd.

silks with yellow rims are double silks, white rims are single silks. I have heard them called single stop and double stop silks, but I don't know for a fact if they cut one and two stops respectively, I choose them more on feel than numbers. Doubles are a little heavier fabric than the singles.
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#7 Ross Neugeboren

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Posted 30 January 2009 - 10:19 PM

That would be a silk flag. For diffusion purposes obviously. In film school we called them China silks.


I was under the impression that the term flag referred to a black-fabric light-blocking device.
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Posted 31 January 2009 - 06:38 AM

I was under the impression that the term flag referred to a black-fabric light-blocking device.


Well how I describe the objects:

All nets, solids and silks are types of flags.

The nets are the single/ double light reducing flags.

The solids block all light.

The silk diffuse the light.


"Flagging off" a light does mean using a solid, so perhaps that is the confusion. Maybe I am conducting set in the wrong manner. This is how I refer to my lighting control materials.

If flag is another term for a solid, then what are all of the light control devices referred to as?

Edited by Ryan Patrick OHara, 31 January 2009 - 06:41 AM.

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#9 Scott Lovejoy

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Posted 31 January 2009 - 11:33 AM

That would be a silk flag. For diffusion purposes obviously. In film school we called them China silks. I would hope the yellow frame means it's different from a non-yellow silk. Otherwise, there is something inherently (slightly) racist by calling something 'yellow' chinese.


I believe that they came in the other order. While I've never heard it called a China silk, I think the name probably comes from China balls, which basically do the same thing, but in sphere form.
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#10 Andrew Brinkhaus

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Posted 31 January 2009 - 02:07 PM

Actually Scott, the "China" in China Silk comes from the type of silk used. There are different types of silks, artificial, chinese, and maybe one or two more.
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#11 Scott Lovejoy

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Posted 31 January 2009 - 02:16 PM

Actually Scott, the "China" in China Silk comes from the type of silk used. There are different types of silks, artificial, chinese, and maybe one or two more.



I stand corrected.

I've learned my new fact for the day. How does Chinese compare to artificial in terms of diffusing?
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