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#1 Kane George Jason

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 04:38 AM

Just wondering if any of you guys have mounted your little Beaulieu onto a rail system for lens support, matte box reasons...

If you have, please share how you did your setup or where you brought it, because I'm not entirely sure which will work because of the 4008's angled hand grip.

Thanks, Kane.
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#2 JB Guillot

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 07:47 AM

The only info I've ever seen is this pic (and description below - click on pic)...
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Any further info could be great.
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#3 Glenn Brady

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 08:59 AM

American Cinematographic Systems makes a custom leveling plate and rod support system for Beaulieu 4008 series cameras. The system is beautifully machined in Aluminum, finished in powder coat black, and supplied with carbon fiber rods. The rods are 15mm diameter and spaced 60mm apart, so industry-standard matte boxes are accommodated. I own such a system and am very satisfied with it.

ACS can be contacted at arfilm76 [at] yahoo [dot] com.
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Posted 02 February 2009 - 11:11 AM

Could you drop a picture of the system ?

Problem with "conventional" rods systems is to find the leveling plate to compensate Beaulieu's handgrip angle...this piece of steal is really hard to find. Having a complete system as you describe could be really great ! :)
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#5 Kane George Jason

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 11:11 AM

American Cinematographic Systems makes a custom leveling plate and rod support system for Beaulieu 4008 series cameras. The system is beautifully machined in Aluminum, finished in powder coat black, and supplied with carbon fiber rods. The rods are 15mm diameter and spaced 60mm apart, so industry-standard matte boxes are accommodated. I own such a system and am very satisfied with it.


Hi Glenn,

Thanks so much for the info, i know a few people that will be happy to know theres such a product out there!

Have you got a pic of your set up? I cant seem to find a website for these guys. And how are the prices for the custom levelling plate?
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#6 Kane George Jason

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 11:15 AM

Sorry Glenn, didn't mean to ask for a pic of the setup again after JB. JB's reply was too fast for me :)
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Posted 02 February 2009 - 01:10 PM

I have pictures of this system, but I'm from a generation before computers were in widespread use and have never been able to figure out how to post a picture to this forum. I'd be happy to send pictures to those who PM their e-mail addresses.

The current price of the leveling plate, which appears at eBay regularly, is $56.00. The entire system - leveling plate, rod support, and rods - may be priced at $220.00, but you'll need to verify that with ACS.
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Posted 02 February 2009 - 03:48 PM

Glenn sent me some pics...here they are :

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"I've attached two low resolution images of the ACS rod support system fitted to my Beaulieu 4008 M3. Also shown is a special one-off fixture used to adapt a Tobin synchronous motor to the camera. The matte box is a Chrosziel 3x3. The machining of the leveling plate and rod support is of very high quality, and fine adjustments are provided to assure a perfect fit between camera and matte box." from Glenn.

Edited by JB Guillot, 02 February 2009 - 03:51 PM.

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 06:15 PM

What happened to the happy little Beaulieu?

What is the advantage of using super-8 here??? Only the look of the image on film I suppose. The rest might just be 16mm. At the price of mid-size used car :)

Edited by Andries Molenaar, 02 February 2009 - 06:17 PM.

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#10 Kane George Jason

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 10:23 PM

Thanks for combining JB and Glenn, the photo's are great!

And yes, those prices are current as I just got a swift email back from ACS. $56 for the plate & $220 for the system.

Looks to be the way to go :)
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Posted 08 March 2009 - 12:08 AM

Just wondering if any of you guys have mounted your little Beaulieu onto a rail system for lens support, matte box reasons...

If you have, please share how you did your setup or where you brought it, because I'm not entirely sure which will work because of the 4008's angled hand grip.

Thanks, Kane.



check this out
http://cgi.ebay.com/...Cus...:1|294:50
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#12 Andries Molenaar

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Posted 08 March 2009 - 04:03 AM

check this out
http://cgi.ebay.com/...Cus...:1|294:50


Looks nice, but it is the rods and camera-base only. :(
They produce it is in series?

With some MDF woodwork and 2 15mm aluminium tubes the same can easily be achieve in DIY

The Chrosziel matte box is going to cost over Euro 500.
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#13 Bengt Freden

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 10:54 PM

Hi all,

I have bought the black powder coated ACS camera plate for my Beaulieu 4008 ZM II, that still has the handle, and I can vouch for the extremely high quality of this product. With the plate screwed into the handle, the camera rests EXACTLY LEVEL on a table (without falling over) or levelled out on the tripodĀ“s fluid head. The finish and fit is incredibly smooth. I am so glad I got one - it is worth every dollar is cost me.

I am thinking about various solutions for extension rods, compendium matte boxes, and filter holders myself, but I dont have the skill nor the machines needed for the job.

Best,
Bengt F ;)
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Posted 15 March 2009 - 04:05 AM

Hi all,

I have bought the black powder coated ACS camera plate for my Beaulieu 4008 ZM II, that still has the handle, and I can vouch for the extremely high quality of this product. With the plate screwed into the handle, the camera rests EXACTLY LEVEL on a table (without falling over) or levelled out on the tripodĀ“s fluid head. The finish and fit is incredibly smooth. I am so glad I got one - it is worth every dollar is cost me.

I am thinking about various solutions for extension rods, compendium matte boxes, and filter holders myself, but I dont have the skill nor the machines needed for the job.

Best,
Bengt F ;)


It would indeed be hard to build a compendium yourself. :)

But the rods are simple aluminium tubes which can be had at a few Euro.
And cutting these to length isn't rocket science :)
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 02:28 PM

It would indeed be hard to build a compendium yourself. :)

But the rods are simple aluminium tubes which can be had at a few Euro.
And cutting these to length isn't rocket science :)



I'd like to explain a few things about the rod support. I don't frequent this website often, but occasionaly I notice conversations of individuals looking for a reliable means for using a mattebox with their 4008 and anytime my rod support is mentioned along with the cost, there are individuals that feel the price is to steep for something so "simple".

I built the rod support for those individuals that wanted a professional looking and functional
way of having more artistic control over their image. It was geared towards those that wish to utilize
Super 8 in ways other than that of an amateur. Yes, something could be built for cheaper, but your use of that system would dictate the quality and material involved. You could build it out of wood or other cheaper material, or it can be built out of something that's going to last and provide you with confidence when using.

If you prefer the latter, then the only other option is to have your handle removed and buy a commerical rod support. If you compare the total costs, I think I win.
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Posted 19 March 2009 - 02:18 PM

I'd like to explain a few things about the rod support. I don't frequent this website often, but occasionaly I notice conversations of individuals looking for a reliable means for using a mattebox with their 4008 and anytime my rod support is mentioned along with the cost, there are individuals that feel the price is to steep for something so "simple".

I built the rod support for those individuals that wanted a professional looking and functional
way of having more artistic control over their image. It was geared towards those that wish to utilize
Super 8 in ways other than that of an amateur. Yes, something could be built for cheaper, but your use of that system would dictate the quality and material involved. You could build it out of wood or other cheaper material, or it can be built out of something that's going to last and provide you with confidence when using.

If you prefer the latter, then the only other option is to have your handle removed and buy a commerical rod support. If you compare the total costs, I think I win.

Seth is right, the solution is cheaper. I found it out to late and had already made a choice of removing the handle and I searched quite a while for a suitable support system, it ended with an Cavision rodsolution. Here is some pics:

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Feel free to ask anything.

Best,
David

Edited by David Odell, 19 March 2009 - 02:20 PM.

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Posted 22 March 2009 - 05:01 PM

Seth is right, the solution is cheaper. I found it out to late and had already made a choice of removing the handle and I searched quite a while for a suitable support system, it ended with an Cavision rodsolution. Here is some pics:

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Feel free to ask anything.

Best,
David



Got out the handle, where you to put the on off button?
Regards
Jorge
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#18 David Odell

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 09:13 AM

Got out the handle, where you to put the on off button?
Regards
Jorge

The powerswitch is removed, and the camera now powers when a battery is connected. So one have to remove the battery to power it of, or the battery will charge out.

Edited by David Odell, 23 March 2009 - 09:14 AM.

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#19 Jorge Rondao

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 05:48 AM

Ok thanks.
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#20 Peter Van Scherpe

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 05:17 PM

I have just purchased my 4008 and am looking for a rail system and came across this thread. Does American Cinematographic Systems still exist? If so would someone please post the contact information.
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