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#1 Marcus Joseph

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 04:29 PM



I'm baffled at how this was released, but even more so that the director didn't intervene instead of just saying "I didn't see anything" or something along those lines.

An actor should have no right no matter how big they are to skitz out on crew members like that.
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#2 Marcus Joseph

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 04:31 PM

WARNING: There's a lot of coarse language. If this is against board rules, I will remove it right away.
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#3 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 05:02 PM

Similar incidents, though usually not quite that extreme, happen all too often on a movie set. You have a heady mix of powerful people some of whom never left adolescence emotionally, combined with a high-pressure, high-stakes environment, plus long hours over a number of weeks or months...

It's my least favorite aspect of moviemaking and the one that takes most of the joy out of the process when it happens.

Under the pressures of making a movie, even some of the nicest people I have ever met can have moments of unreasonable unpleasantness -- you find yourself having to forgive an awful lot.

This sort of incident is usually part of a trend -- if Bale wasn't screaming at the DP for this innocent mistake, then he probably would be screaming at the 2nd AD outside of his trailer or a make-up person, etc. for some other mistake. The anger is out of proportion to the incident.

I had one actor once go on a tirade against the director and me one day -- later a longtime friend of that actor said he only showed his anger to people he trusted and liked, which seems an odd way of relating to people!

I find that some "star" actors, male or female, tend to be stuck in the emotional and social conventions of high school -- the guy still thinks he's the star quarterback and the actress still thinks she's the prom queen. Once you realize you're talking to a 14-year-old -- even if the actor is middle-aged -- you gain some perspective on what they are going through.
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#4 K Borowski

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 05:22 PM

This is mild compared to the "I Heart Huckabees" incident. . .
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#5 Andreas Wessberg FSF

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 05:39 PM

Must say as much as I respect Bale as an actor there are no excuse for in public go on like that.
As David Mullen so well describe there are a lot of pressure at a filmset, but still, after being a dp at
five features and ten tv-series I have never ever been close to something like this.
A lot of pressure, sure, but this is smply to far out.
I did like the 14year old thing, never thought about it before.

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#6 Tom Hepburn

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 05:43 PM

Reminds me a bit of the Buddy Rich tape....although I don't remember him going after anyone.

too bad though.
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#7 Saul Rodgar

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 06:03 PM

In my 15 feature films (and countless commercials) as a crew member I have only seen this situation once before. It sure wasn't pretty and the incidents became routine between the two involved. I swore then that if anyone ever talked to me like only once that I would walk off the set never to come back.

Since working on movie sets I have found that is the closest to royalty here in the US are "celebrities". I have had my share of unpleasant encounters with them, although nothing even remotely near the Bale example. That whole "above / below the line" thing infuriates me, "nobles and commoners" anyone?

But even crew members can become like that, in my experience mainly transpo guys. Some are really nice and some are just out of control who love to get into shouting matches with anyone unlucky enough to piss them off, and the ones out for a fight have hair-trigger tempers too.
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#8 Stuart Brereton

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 06:23 PM

Does anyone know Shane Hurlbut (the DP) if so, can they share the other side to this story?
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#9 Saul Rodgar

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 06:25 PM

Oh, it seems evident to me that someone in the sound department leaked this out, as the source of the sound seems to be a lav, judging that all others sound distant from the source and that there is no video of it, being that they seemed to be rehearsing a take when the DP stepped in to look at a light.

If that is the case, those sound dept. guys could find themselves looking hard for another career soon. Or maybe it will turn to this big expose, along the lines of "When movie stars attack!!" :lol:
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#10 Saul Rodgar

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 06:27 PM

I know Shane. Nice guy. But I didn't work on that movie so, can't say what the situation was.
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#11 David Mullen ASC

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 06:33 PM

The sound people had to turn a copy over to the producers in case there was an insurance claim if Bale walked off the set, so it didn't necessarily get leaked to the public through the sound department. The sound had to go through both the production offices and a post house probably, maybe even editorial.
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#12 Delorme Jean-Marie

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 06:34 PM

this situation shows 2 problems for me.

- first no one for no reason should do anything else than focus on what is going on during a take and should only think on how to fix the problem AFTER the cut.
i know often people wants to do theire best in theire craft and try to save time working during the takes and it can come to this situation.

- second it's a shame that the sound crew put this stuff on internet, the sound is clear and sharp and come from an open mic.
it's sad to see a high level film crew doing stuff like that.

working on a film set is often verry fun but one should never forget it's a place of creation that needs focus and respect.

i can understand what bayle felt : "they respect theire craft more than my work, they don't give a poop of me" and at this time you could here he wasn't beleiving anymore to nothing".... sad

my opinion
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#13 Bob Hayes

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 06:41 PM

This isn't his first case of assault. Don’t forget Christian Bale was arrested for verbally assaulting his mother and sister when Dark Knight came out.
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#14 Saul Rodgar

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 06:47 PM

The sound people had to turn a copy over to the producers in case there was an insurance claim if Bale walked off the set, so it didn't necessarily get leaked to the public through the sound department. The sound had to go through both the production offices and a post house probably, maybe even editorial.


That is true. Thanks, David.

Wouldn't want to get those guys in trouble . . .

Edited by Saul Rodgar, 02 February 2009 - 06:49 PM.

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#15 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 09:04 PM

What gets me is the mixed accent. There's nothing wrong with swearing like an American - as long as you are actually an American. There's nothing quite so redolent of insecurity, in that context. Gotta be one of the gang.

Is there really nobody around whose job it is to say "shut up, Bale, you're acting like Paris Hilton on the comedown?"
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Posted 02 February 2009 - 09:27 PM

If this sort of recording gets wide exposure, I wonder what sort of damage this could have on not only on T4 but Christian Bale's career. I was thinking that tabloid shows could/would never be able to play over the air, but then again they love this sort of scandalous garbage-- bleeping out half of what he says makes it all the more "shocking" and "appalling."

Klaus Kinski's tantrums became legendary because they were sort of hilarious and pathetic and a few underhanded directors could actually manipulate his little fits into his bettering his "performance."
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#17 Marcus Joseph

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 10:14 PM

Does anyone know Shane Hurlbut (the DP) if so, can they share the other side to this story?

On his IMDb board page.

http://www.imdb.com/.../nest/112880831 (notice the date?)

There was a release about a shot being messed up months ago, but not much details beyond that. So it seems he replied around that time (which is probably when the incident occurred considering they've wrapped shooting).

He also replied to this one:

http://www.imdb.com/.../nest/112683233

But now the board is full of Bale fans, trolls and such. So I doubt he'd be making any more replies.

Edited by Marcus Johnston, 02 February 2009 - 10:16 PM.

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#18 Christopher Santucci

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 01:35 AM

Found this in another forum. Apologies



Here's a little background. Of course, we don't know (do we?) how long they'd been at it, how many takes were wasted, etc, etc.

http://defamer.com/5...vation-meltdown
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#19 Jamie Metzger

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 03:16 AM

- second it's a shame that the sound crew put this stuff on internet, the sound is clear and sharp and come from an open mic.
it's sad to see a high level film crew doing stuff like that.


i disagree with your opinion. If you don't confront people, they'll get away with murder. I do agree that bale handled this way terrible.

Also, like david said, this isn't 100% definitely the sound crew.
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#20 Brad Grimmett

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 03:22 AM

Here's a little background. Of course, we don't know (do we?) how long they'd been at it, how many takes were wasted, etc, etc.

http://defamer.com/5...vation-meltdown

Well, he says that it was the 2nd time in the audio....
We also don't know what horrible offense was really perpetrated. It's hard to make excuses for the guy, at least at this point.
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