Creating Haze Outside
Posted 23 March 2009 - 02:15 PM
Posted 23 March 2009 - 07:27 PM
Have phish play at your shoot?
Thats the best solution I have ever heard
Posted 24 March 2009 - 07:52 AM
I imagine it would necessitate the rigging of some very large rags overhead and just out of frame to prevent the haze from dissipating too quickly, although I seem to recall (or perhaps I'm making it up) that wetting the ground/grass will also help--but perhaps that only helps to sell the effect. It's early and I haven't had my coffee yet, forgive me.
I'd check with your local supply house(s), if you haven't already. All too often people just go in to pick up/drop off orders. From my experience, rental houses are staffed with knowledgeable people who really like to be involved in helping you solve production problems like this, and it's a great way to get to know the hardworking people on the staff. Show them a picture of the location and explain the effect you want. While they may not have what you need in house, they can probably help you locate it elsewhere.
Edited by Shane Bartlett, 24 March 2009 - 07:56 AM.
Posted 24 March 2009 - 09:54 AM
There was a brief mention in a recent AC article about using a hazer outside, but I can't remember which model or for which picture. Sorry. The image displayed was of a grove or meadow with a row of trees...something like that.
Was it "The Village" issue? Was there a village issue I can't remember? But it did have a large long single take hazer scene. The effect was of fog coming out of a grove of trees which was lit from either side. I can't remember what they did to achieve this so I'm not much help I'm afraid...
Posted 24 March 2009 - 12:41 PM
Posted 24 March 2009 - 01:25 PM
Now, here's the thing. IT GETS HOTTER'N HELL!!!!!!. It is not necessarily dangerous. But, it ain't real safe, either. Lots of people burn stuff in 55 gallon drums. I do not endorse the practice. But, it worked great for me. Those pine needles smolder and make a lovely, smelly smoke in great, whopping volumes. Put it way up-wind for haze. Five of these can fill an entire, wide-open background. Let the county fire guys know about it if you don't dig sirens.
Posted 24 March 2009 - 01:40 PM
The other method is nicknamed the "tube of death" -- a cheap plastic tube, like a garbage bag plastic, but very long, run through the woods, with holes punched into it. You attach this to a fog machine and pump fog through the tube, which leaks out all around.
Posted 02 April 2009 - 02:16 AM
Edited by Travis Cline, 02 April 2009 - 02:17 AM.
Posted 02 April 2009 - 04:33 PM
Posted 03 April 2009 - 05:34 PM
Posted 05 April 2009 - 02:55 AM
I've shot films with both methods David described and I found the tube method worked much better, if you can hide the tube. The film I shot where they used the "flame thrower" method proved that it actually is a flame thrower. A few sparks shot out of it and started a forest fire within seconds. We had to evacuate the crew and all our gear. Sets burned to the ground, but fortunately no one was hurt. I would recommend not using that type of fogger in tall dry grass. Also, it doesn't fog a large area for any decent duration of time. Any fog will dissipate rather quickly outside when its warm.
I've used and done something fairly similar. $40 at a hardware store can net you one of those hand held bug foggers that takes propane to fuel and juice to kill the bugs. Where you would put the bug juice we rather put mineral oil. Turn it on. Let it heat up. Bam! Industrial Handheld portable fogger for under $50. Of course after playing around with it for about an hour the oil instead of turning into fog, turned into fire and became a fairly controlled flame thrower. Then the end melted and the thing stopped working. I am not advising that you do this. I am sharing experience. Flame throwers are dangerous, the propane tank might have exploded had we kept playing.
This is all pending on the fact that your exterior environment is still enough to allow for the fog to dissipate into a haze. Wind is bad.