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#1 James Mehr

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 09:57 PM

I'm in the market for a small/portable 16mm editor/viewer to make some experimental shorts. Which 16mm viewer should I look for? Are there any 16mm equivalents to the Minette? Thanks!
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#2 Bo Svalin

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 03:43 AM

Look at this site, http://www.kahlfilm....29&productid=47
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#3 Edward C. Zimmermann

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 03:45 AM

The best (really the standard) simple portable viewer editor is the Zeiss Ikon Movicop (Moviskop). They work exceptionally well. They were never cheap (costing no less than $150 USD in the mid-1950s) and today fetch prices generally upwards of $100 USD.
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#4 Patrick Neary

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 10:56 AM

There was a cool viewer called (i think) the KVS-Pro or something similar, that was a Craig viewer with a sound head mounted below for sync/mag track editing, it looked very handy. The Craig viewers are very cheap and easy to find, but not as nice as the Moviscop.
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#5 Bruce Taylor

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 04:41 PM

I've got a Moviscop I'd like to get rid of. $50? I bought it awhile ago used but never used it, bulb works. My favorite tabletop viewer was the Moviola M50 (I think that was the model#). Best picture this side of a flatbed.

Bruce Taylor
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Posted 17 June 2009 - 05:28 AM

Look at this site, http://www.kahlfilm....29&productid=47


avoid these editors! they are old russian stock. i bought one and they are really bad for scratching film!
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#7 Bengt Freden

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 09:25 PM

Hi all,

I agree that the Zeiss Ikon Moviscop 16mm viewer is a very good one - not so crisp and sharp a picture perhaps, due to it´s spinning prism, but it is very easy on the original film (no scratches if you keep it meticulously clean in the gate).
It is very bright, extremely simple to load and easy to use overall. However, no frame height adjustment in my machine.
I have taken out the black mask behind the viewing screen for a full frame.

Another very fine 16mm editor is the Minette 'Sixteen' editor, which is very, very rare these days. We have one at work and the image is more steady than in the Moviscop, due to a stainless steel pressure plate, much like the Minette S-5 Super 8mm counterpart. It is gray in color and cast in metal - no plastic parts, except for a nylon film guiding wheel or two. It has a frame height adjustment, which works very well. A very sturdy and well-engineered product, in my opinion.
I will try to obtain one myself, if possible (eBay). I saw one there last year but it was in a terrible state.

Best,
Bengt in Stockholm
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#8 Olex Kalynychenko

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Posted 20 June 2009 - 02:37 AM

Look at this site, http://www.kahlfilm....29&productid=47


Show like russian "EKRAN-16"
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#9 Bengt Freden

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Posted 20 June 2009 - 07:14 AM

Hi all,

The editor that they are marketing at Kahl-film looks really amateurish to me - like the regular Super 8 amateur or family editor, with too small handles, permanently attached to the editor body. That is really tedious for your shoulders and wrists, if you are committed and want to spend long hours in your screening/ editing room.

What you want are big adjustable friction handles, that are about 1 meter apart, for the best ergonomic position.
The standard 70s 16mm professional editing set-up, that is.

Best,
Bengt in Stockholm ;)
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#10 Bo Svalin

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Posted 20 June 2009 - 10:45 AM

Zeiss Moviscop have a very small "image" and a very warm yellow light even with OSRAM HLX HALOGEN lamp, and the picture jumps a lot. But it is very easy to load with film.
Kahl-film Kupawa has a larger picture, but as previously written, the risk of scratches larger because it is more difficult to load the film, the light is slightly whiter than Moviscope. The picture jumps some even with Kupawa.
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#11 mel chin

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 10:26 PM

I've got a Moviscop I'd like to get rid of. $50? I bought it awhile ago used but never used it, bulb works. My favorite tabletop viewer was the Moviola M50 (I think that was the model#). Best picture this side of a flatbed.

Bruce Taylor
www.indi35.com


hi bruce,

still have that moviscop for sale? i have old 16mm footage i need to review. let me know when you can.

thanks, Mel Chin
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#12 Erkan Umut

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 06:27 AM

Another very fine 16mm editor is the Minette 'Sixteen' editor, which is very, very rare these days. We have one at work and the image is more steady than in the Moviscop, due to a stainless steel pressure plate, much like the Minette S-5 Super 8mm counterpart. It is gray in color and cast in metal - no plastic parts, except for a nylon film guiding wheel or two. It has a frame height adjustment, which works very well. A very sturdy and well-engineered product, in my opinion.


I have one complete set of gray-colored Minette SIXTEEN editor with the Minette DELUXE manual-operated Rewinder, which is an excellent product. I also have a black-colored Minette EIGHT editor/viewer. SIXTEEN is very rare though! Try the Japanese auction sites with translation...

Edited by Erkan Umut, 31 March 2010 - 06:29 AM.

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#13 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 06:37 AM

If you want to do track laying as well, although also great for picture cutting, (you can get motorised versions) the Acmade Pic Sync the later versions (the Competitor) had quite large screens and a de clutch able track for syncing. UK industry film cutting room standard kit in the 1970s & 80's.
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