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#1 Delorme Jean-Marie

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 05:02 AM

hi all

I'm writting for the hotel in the sahara desert in algeria where we shot yesterday night the "sandy" part of the comercial i'm working on now.
Its a 5 day shoot and 5 day travel film for the promotion of tourism in this beautifull country.
it'll be a 40" film for Europe and north africa

we decided to film in the canon 5D MKII format for the look as i had the budget film in 35mm.

my main concern was the strengh of the camera and the compact flash cards.
but it holded the 47°C verry well.
we have an ABC crane 12ft with a 2 axis head.

everything is going smoothly so far but my tow assistant had to struggle with sand and wind during the night.

today we move for Timgad a romanian ancient city 2000 years old we intend to film at magic hour

i'll keep you update
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Posted 21 June 2009 - 08:29 PM

Looking forward to seeing some footage from the 5Dmk2 with some high production value and care put into the filming process. Let us know when you can share any frames or the final product!
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#3 Serge Teulon

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Posted 22 June 2009 - 04:35 AM

Hi Jean,

Is this the first time you've shot with the 5dII?
What are you appreciating most and also what are you're dislikes about it?

I recently rejected the idea of using the 5dmkII on a commmercial that I'm shooting soon, which is going to be quite challenging...
It just seems nuts to use a camera that requires the crew (incl myself) to completely re-adjust the way they work to use a camera.

Like Tom has said, it would be great to see some images of your shoot...

I hope it keeps running smoothly and successfully.
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#4 Delorme Jean-Marie

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 03:35 AM

hi i'm back in paris

well i'm working and testing this "camera" for 4 month now.
to have it ready to film, you need to work it like a 35mm camera.
same number of assistants, grips, gaffer.

the weight of the overhall is tremendously reduced.


the trick is to properly accessories the camera.

to achieve this as it's brand new technology i had to buy everything! and that was a bet.
i also ran the photo flee market to find lenses with no anti-flare coating.
i'v been testing all the existing lens on the market compatible with the 5D2.
and finally i founded my package.

"sahara" is my second film in 5D2 the first one "APCA" soon on vimeo got me the job in the competition.
"APCA" is in the editing process for the directors cut.

the story is funny because I first won "sahara" with the images of "ministere de la defense" then i was fired when they saw "APCA".
the director had sended the "APCA" to the same agency.
then they found out it was the same DP.
at this time "APCA" had no grading, ruff editing, no post production value, bad typography ! they really had to love the footage!!!

i'll let you know when i'll put it on vimeo

what's good : the lens, photographic lens are fantastic
what's bad : the lens again, they aren't made for motion picture a smooth follow focus is almost impossible
what's good : the depth of field, less than in 35mm because the sensor is much bigger
what's good : the weight. with this camera the director comes easily to operating and you work very fast.
what's bad : it's hard to have people believing you can do a better image with a 2000$ camera than with a 35mm package ! and wuen it comes to a 300,000€ film it can be an issue.

talk to you soon
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Posted 24 June 2009 - 03:06 PM

Hey !
Looking forward to hear more news !

Can i ask you wich lenses and other acessories did you choose ?

thanks ;)
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#6 David Rakoczy

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 03:12 PM

'Vince',

Kindly go to My Controls and change your screen name to your real full name per the rules of this forum.
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#7 Igor Trajkovski

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 03:48 PM

How are things progressing?
Eager to see footage.
:)

Best

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#8 Delorme Jean-Marie

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 07:12 AM

hi
here is the footage

View on Vimeo
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#9 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 07:55 AM

Looks nice. Perhaps it's just me, but I feel it's almost too "smooth," looking. But, then again I'm a fan of grain. Great work.
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#10 Matt Irwin

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 04:03 PM

Looks great Jean!

Can you elaborate on your lens package? Which lenses specifically? Was the choice to use uncoated lenses unique to the project, or did you find it gave you best results with the 5D in general?
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#11 Delorme Jean-Marie

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 04:07 AM

thanks Matt


here my lens list
Nikon
16mm T2.8
24mm T2.8
50mm T1.8
55 macro T2.8
85mm T1.8
80-200 ED T2.8
300mm T4

canon
7,5mm Fishe Eye T 5.6 FD (uncoated)
24mm TSE T2.8
35mm FD TSE T2.8 (uncoated)
85mm TSE T2.8

a picture of my setup :
http://www.camera-fo...amp;#entry32058
and
http://www.camera-fo...mp;fromsearch=1

i use uncoated lens to bring flares :
- i give a naturalistic look
- i found thet 5D footage reminded me anamorphic textures so as flares are part of the anamorphic look i try to push in this direction.
- the high def of the 5D can make a too sharp image (too videoish) if used with a too sharp "modern" lens. so a good old piece of glass makes it fine.

i'm preparing a short film with the P+S Techniks prime lens serie with a nikon mount (with my nikon canon adaptor ring)

http://www.emit.fr/f.../377-2-c-l.html

focus pulling is an issue with 5d
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