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#1 Steve Bellen

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 02:32 AM

Hey everyone, first time poster in here.

So, that's the question. Which is the best?

I'm currently working on an HD series and we're using older "Astro" on board monitors with the F35 cameras. We move so fast and mostly without a rehersal that the "peaking" has become our newest tape measure. I'm considering buying my own monitor so I can ease my suffering a bit. The rental house says they're "out" of the newer models so we can't even get one to test.
Anyone like to offer up some opinions?

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#2 David Auner aac

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 03:01 AM

So, that's the question. Which is the best?


Hi Steve,
I haven't shot cameras of that class yet, but for other HD work (HPX-3000 et al) I liked this one quite a lot: Panasonic BT-LH80WU.

Cheers, Dave
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#3 Brad Grimmett

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 06:22 PM

We recently tested a handful of monitors to find which was best. It was aimed at steadicam operators, but there are plenty that would be good as onboards. Check out the thread here: The Great Daylight Monitor Shootout
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#4 Jamie Metzger

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 12:15 AM

Hey Steve!

I was going to mention the monitor that David posted: Panasonic BT-LH80WU.

It has a red peaking mode which makes it pretty east to pull off of in a pinch. I think Chater might have one.

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#5 David Auner aac

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 01:05 AM

Hey Steve!

I was going to mention the monitor that David posted: Panasonic BT-LH80WU.

It has a red peaking mode which makes it pretty east to pull off of in a pinch. I think Chater might have one.


IIRC you can even choose the color for peaking! I also liked the 1:1 zoom mode and the ability to select one of nine regions like a tic tac toe board for zoom in. Built in WFM isn't bad either.

Cheers, Dave
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#6 Brad Grimmett

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 03:06 AM

Panasonic BT-LH80WU.

We had that monitor on a movie I did last year. The AC seemed to like it. I do remember that it was pretty big and heavy though. Just a thought...
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#7 Steve Bellen

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Posted 22 August 2009 - 11:13 PM

Keep the ideas coming guys, thanks
The monitor shoot out was interesting but it's not a "brightness" issue that's the main problem, it's peaking. I need more of it in low light, long lens, WFO situations. Now if I could get peaking on my brothers Ultra2 monitor, THAT would rock ;)
I'm not yet a fan of "red" peaking, it's not a natural occurrance so it doesn't quickly (during a take) make sense. I recently looked at a "marshal" with red peaking, and according to it, everything was in focus 'cause everything was shimmering in red. I'm not against red, it just needs to be better defined.
I'll look around and see if I can find that Panasonic in a Demo model to test.

Edited by Steve Bellen, 22 August 2009 - 11:14 PM.

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#8 Chris Keth

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Posted 23 August 2009 - 02:00 AM

Keep the ideas coming guys, thanks
The monitor shoot out was interesting but it's not a "brightness" issue that's the main problem, it's peaking. I need more of it in low light, long lens, WFO situations. Now if I could get peaking on my brothers Ultra2 monitor, THAT would rock ;)
I'm not yet a fan of "red" peaking, it's not a natural occurrance so it doesn't quickly (during a take) make sense. I recently looked at a "marshal" with red peaking, and according to it, everything was in focus 'cause everything was shimmering in red. I'm not against red, it just needs to be better defined.
I'll look around and see if I can find that Panasonic in a Demo model to test.


In the marshall, the peaking tolerance just needed to be turned down. The tolerance was so far up that edges that weren't all that sharp were peaking too. You only want sharp edges to peak.

The red is especially good, because you can turn the peaking way down and still see the peaking areas clearly.
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#9 Krzysztof Wlodarczyk

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Posted 22 September 2009 - 02:55 PM

Hey everyone, first time poster in here.

So, that's the question. Which is the best?

I'm currently working on an HD series and we're using older "Astro" on board monitors with the F35 cameras. We move so fast and mostly without a rehersal that the "peaking" has become our newest tape measure. I'm considering buying my own monitor so I can ease my suffering a bit. The rental house says they're "out" of the newer models so we can't even get one to test.
Anyone like to offer up some opinions?

Thanks
Steve B


Hi Steve,
Absolutely the best is the good old Astro 3014 Monitor or any newer version of that. Forget all the Panasonic, Marshall and Transvideo. Astro has the best resolution (HD-SDI in) and color reproduction, and the 3014 has the best scopes. The panasonic ones look so amateur comparing to these. I work as DIT and often as 1stAC and i wouldn't buy any other than astro - the best one you can rely on in both jobs. For 1st ACs - good resolution, peaking, and excelent image magnification (1x,2x,4x), for DITs - good color reproduction and scopes. You can power it from any camera or V-Lock, Anton Bauer Bateries. But if you think of something different than the monitor to ease your pain look for cinetape or laser measure;)
Never use Panasonic monitors with Sony cameras - they don't have the same gammas. I did a few tests with Panasonic monitors straight from the factory and was never satisfied. Probably they match with Varicams and the rest of Panasonic products.
Good luck
Chris
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