No, it's not really the loader's job to do that. I was just saying that on short term without a dedicated loader- where the 2nd also loads, they would be expected to do the same thing, at least making mental notes of millimeter, etc. But then they are really a 2nd. Don't get me started on how many times the UPM will hire people and say, "We have a 1st and a loader, no 2nd..." It's a total misunderstanding of the camera dept.
yes when I was talking about being a loader I meant 2nd. on small productions in the uk we will have a 2nd and a trainee the 2nd will also be a loader (clapper loader) the trainee will stand in to do board and notes whilst the 2nd is off reloading.
loader is often referred to the shortened 'clapper loader' and central loader as a dedicated loader.
on bigger shoots we will have a central loader and separate 2nd AC for each camera a trainee to do mag and battery runs etc.
sorry for the miss communication.
so yes it is the 2nd AC who should be taking down the notes. (who could also be the loader)
As a loader why would one care about lens distance, size, and height????
I agree that you should be dumping footage more than once per day depending on how much you're shooting and the length of the shoot. Usually I'll do a dump at lunch and than at the end if there is no DIT which you don't really need if you know what you're doing and the RED software is pretty self explanatory. Check sums and make copies, done.
Agreed you dont always need a DIT in the full meaning of what a DIT is (as supposed to some one transferring files or red tec) the Red is now a fairly stable camera though is still get the odd curve ball and you still need some one who can fix it, and you should have some one checking and watching the footage on set. checking for overexposure, dropped frames etc.
I also do extensive data report sheets also as a DIT I do a visual report on exposure and grading notes, dpx files etc. please read up a DIT it not someone who transfer files but is quite a highly qualified role.
the difference with film is that you can scratch a few feet its just a few feet, ok yes you can flash a mag. but if a drive goes wrong it's often all gone not just some. witch is why it is important to do regular reloads; And because you can chose when you can reload you don't have to hold the shoot up by doing it at inconvenient moments but rather between setups. I worked on some big scale productions. I know if it was a chose between me and some one who reloads twice a day, I'm the one there going to trust.
I noticed this lack of respect for digital and I think it's plain sloppy. as with film cameras you should carry spare cables card readers check the gate and look after the rushes. I don't know if this is born out of laziness or ignorance for the format. but it led to some really stupid and very avoidable mistakes.
I Realy know the redone system and I know that if treated right it a great little camera. but it can also easily all go so badly wrong. and i have a few panicked people on the phone to me because they just don't cover them selves....
long story short reload often it's not hard, if there no reason not to do it, then do it!
again with notes there's no need to go over board but if every bit of extra information you can keep just makes you better at your job. it's fine if you don't think that's right (though if your asked to do it by your boss i strongly suggest you do it). but i can tell you as much as its important that you get along with the people you work with its also the little things like that, that impress and keep you landing the jobs.
I know it says on my profile I'm a DIT (not just red tec) I'm also a 2nd AC.
looking forward to your thoughts