Jump to content


Photo

super8 shoot in a bathroom


  • Please log in to reply
13 replies to this topic

#1 julien doumenjou

julien doumenjou
  • Basic Members
  • PipPip
  • 52 posts
  • Student

Posted 12 April 2010 - 09:16 PM

Hi,

I'm shooting in a bathroom with a super8 Beaulieu 4008. I'm looking for a neon kind of light. I thought using Kino Flo but this units are good for video, I don't know about super8.

Just to give you an idea, I'm looking for the glossy, foggy white atmosphere you can find in some of the Kubrick's film. It will be of course very far from that because we're shooting in super 8 and we can't afford to rent too much equipment, and it's a small bathroom.

Do you have any idea ?
  • 0

#2 Alessandro Machi

Alessandro Machi
  • Sustaining Members
  • 3318 posts
  • Other
  • California

Posted 14 April 2010 - 02:18 AM

Kino Flo's are kind of bulky, no? Would be nice to link to an image to show what kind of effect you are looking to do.
  • 0

#3 julien doumenjou

julien doumenjou
  • Basic Members
  • PipPip
  • 52 posts
  • Student

Posted 14 April 2010 - 11:16 AM

Kino Flo's are kind of bulky, no?

A little bit but it's light and easy to fix on the wall.

Would be nice to link to an image to show what kind of effect you are looking to do.


Here's an exemple of the white mood I'm looking for, the problem is here the light seems to come from the floor wich of course I can't reproduce.Posted Image
  • 0

#4 julien doumenjou

julien doumenjou
  • Basic Members
  • PipPip
  • 52 posts
  • Student

Posted 14 April 2010 - 11:18 AM

Kino Flo's are kind of bulky, no?

A little bit but it's light and easy to fix on the wall.

Would be nice to link to an image to show what kind of effect you are looking to do.


Here's an exemple of the white mood I'm looking for, the problem is here the light seems to come from the floor wich of course I can't reproduce.Posted Image

Attached Images

  • Kubrick.jpg

  • 0

#5 Alessandro Machi

Alessandro Machi
  • Sustaining Members
  • 3318 posts
  • Other
  • California

Posted 14 April 2010 - 01:44 PM

Thanks, that is very illuminating.

I would suggest you start with the best possible location to create that kind of light, and then try and make it look like a bathroom rather than trying to light a pre-existing bathroom that way.
  • 0

#6 Chris Burke

Chris Burke
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1675 posts
  • Boston, MA

Posted 15 April 2010 - 09:32 PM

Here's an exemple of the white mood I'm looking for, the problem is here the light seems to come from the floor wich of course I can't reproduce.Posted Image



do you already have your location? You did say, it is a small bathroom. Paint it white for starters, flat white. I would use 100 watt fluorescent bulbs, tungsten balanced, they will be fine on Super 8, just shoot a gray scale. . Shoot on 7217 for finer grain. 7219 for slightly more grain.
  • 0

#7 julien doumenjou

julien doumenjou
  • Basic Members
  • PipPip
  • 52 posts
  • Student

Posted 15 April 2010 - 10:31 PM

do you already have your location? You did say, it is a small bathroom. Paint it white for starters, flat white. I would use 100 watt fluorescent bulbs, tungsten balanced, they will be fine on Super 8, just shoot a gray scale. . Shoot on 7217 for finer grain. 7219 for slightly more grain.


Thanks! The bathroom is already completly white. Fluorescent bulbs you say ? Where would you put it? I thought fixing some on the ceiling but use some on the floor as well. Should I keep the bathroom dry or wet?
  • 0

#8 julien doumenjou

julien doumenjou
  • Basic Members
  • PipPip
  • 52 posts
  • Student

Posted 15 April 2010 - 10:41 PM

Thanks, that is very illuminating.

I would suggest you start with the best possible location to create that kind of light, and then try and make it look like a bathroom rather than trying to light a pre-existing bathroom that way.


I'm not shooting 2001 obviously and I know it's impossible to create that light on a simple bathroom, just sayin' this is the kind of mood I'm looking for.
  • 0

#9 julien doumenjou

julien doumenjou
  • Basic Members
  • PipPip
  • 52 posts
  • Student

Posted 15 April 2010 - 10:47 PM

do you already have your location? You did say, it is a small bathroom. Paint it white for starters, flat white. I would use 100 watt fluorescent bulbs, tungsten balanced, they will be fine on Super 8, just shoot a gray scale. . Shoot on 7217 for finer grain. 7219 for slightly more grain.


I have a lot of 7240 stock I wanted to use. Do you think it's a very bad option?
  • 0

#10 Alessandro Machi

Alessandro Machi
  • Sustaining Members
  • 3318 posts
  • Other
  • California

Posted 15 April 2010 - 10:57 PM

I have a lot of 7240 stock I wanted to use. Do you think it's a very bad option?


It probably is out of date by a few years, no?
  • 0

#11 julien doumenjou

julien doumenjou
  • Basic Members
  • PipPip
  • 52 posts
  • Student

Posted 16 April 2010 - 07:15 AM

It probably is out of date by a few years, no?

I don't know how to read the expiracy date. On the white square there's number though, 286 158559.
  • 0

#12 Alessandro Machi

Alessandro Machi
  • Sustaining Members
  • 3318 posts
  • Other
  • California

Posted 19 April 2010 - 06:41 PM

I don't know how to read the expiracy date. On the white square there's number though, 286 158559.


I researched this and there is no expiration date on my cartridge either. I have a cartridge with the following number, 286 2852.

I have not opened up the cartridge so I don't know if there is additional info on the cartridge itself. I would guess the film is at least 3 years old, and probably closer to 5 years old.
  • 0

#13 julien doumenjou

julien doumenjou
  • Basic Members
  • PipPip
  • 52 posts
  • Student

Posted 19 April 2010 - 11:45 PM

I researched this and there is no expiration date on my cartridge either. I have a cartridge with the following number, 286 2852.

I have not opened up the cartridge so I don't know if there is additional info on the cartridge itself. I would guess the film is at least 3 years old, and probably closer to 5 years old.


I didn't find any info on my cartridge. I just hope it has been stored properly
  • 0

#14 Alessandro Machi

Alessandro Machi
  • Sustaining Members
  • 3318 posts
  • Other
  • California

Posted 28 April 2010 - 02:04 PM

Why not just go with the Ektachrome 100T? It really is a nice stock.

I consider it so close to good kodachrome 40 that I would not consider it a downgrade to use it instead of kodachrome 40, plus, you get 1 and a 1/3 stop more sensitivity versus Kodachrome 50, and an additional 2/3's more sensitivity than the 64T.
  • 0


Aerial Filmworks

The Slider

CineTape

Gamma Ray Digital Inc

Paralinx LLC

Rig Wheels Passport

Wooden Camera

Technodolly

Opal

Broadcast Solutions Inc

Willys Widgets

Visual Products

Abel Cine

Ritter Battery

CineLab

FJS International, LLC

Tai Audio

Glidecam

Media Blackout - Custom Cables and AKS

Metropolis Post

rebotnix Technologies

Media Blackout - Custom Cables and AKS

Ritter Battery

Willys Widgets

Glidecam

CineTape

rebotnix Technologies

Broadcast Solutions Inc

Tai Audio

Paralinx LLC

Visual Products

Abel Cine

Rig Wheels Passport

Wooden Camera

The Slider

Opal

Technodolly

Metropolis Post

Aerial Filmworks

Gamma Ray Digital Inc

CineLab

FJS International, LLC