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#1 joeldiament

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 08:36 AM

I'm looking to possibly move to England for approx. 6 months and was curious as to what the film and television scene over there is like these days. Is it pretty difficult finding work? I have been doing G&E and a bit of camera assisting for about a year in the US and would ideally find more of the same but am not opposed to starting back at PAing.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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#2 John Holland

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 10:55 AM

Answer dont come here , this country is just about to go down the toilet big time !
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#3 Richard Boddington

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 04:14 PM

Answer dont come here , this country is just about to go down the toilet big time !


Relax John, after the election, the Tories will fix every thing.

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#4 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 04:23 PM

Most Americans find it very difficult to understand how small the industry is here. You're "not opposed to starting back at PAing"? Ha. Get in line. There's appalling, ferocious competition here now even for non-paying jobs, let alone anything real. With Harry Potter over and Bond backburnered, the only things that were keeping the place alive are gone. The top people are now scraping a living on the middle level stuff, the middle level people are gobbling up all the poop-end jobs, and you and I are left scrabbling for vaguely camera-related website work.

In all seriousness, why would you possibly want to come here? There's almost nothing here that isn't done better in the US.

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#5 Richard Boddington

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 07:19 PM

I look at positions in the UK all the time Phil. I view it as a chance to work some place else, experience some thing else, & make UK pounds which are worth a lot here!!

Granted I don't want to come over and be a PA. Know any open positions for directors on movies with budgets 100 million and above? :lol:

I'm amazed at the number of positions listed on Mandy for work in London vs all the other major European capitals. The number of job listings for London is 10X any of the other places I looked at.

I think one of the first considerations for our American friend will be getting some sort of work permit. A US citizen can't just show up and work in the UK and vice versa.

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#6 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 05:19 AM

I'm amazed at the number of positions listed on Mandy for work in London


Cite three. That are paid.

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#7 Richard Boddington

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 09:36 AM

Cite three. That are paid.

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Mandy loaded up six pages when I enter "paid":

http://www.mandy.com...&...ll&paid=yes

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#8 Stephen Williams

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 10:41 AM

Cite three. That are paid.

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The BBC has way more than 3 full time paid jobs on Mandy right now, it's not unusual they always do.
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#9 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 11:27 AM

Ah, yeah. For website developers and "office juniors".

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#10 Stephen Williams

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 12:04 PM

Ah, yeah. For website developers and "office juniors".

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Producer for TopGear, Technologist, Technical Operators as well as website developement. I never saw one for "office Juniors" unless thats a Producer on TopGear, not all the are in London which is why you may be turning up your nose.
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#11 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 12:16 PM

They're advertising Andy Wilman's job on Mandy?

Christ, we are fallen!

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#12 Richard Boddington

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 01:43 PM

They're advertising Andy Wilman's job on Mandy?

Christ, we are fallen!

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Well Phil, we met your "three paid jobs" quota. ;)

Shall I forward your resume?

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#13 Saul Rodgar

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 01:49 PM

You're "not opposed to starting back at PAing"? Ha. Get in line. There's appalling, ferocious competition here now even for non-paying jobs, let alone anything real.


That sounds like the US too. Currently, unless one is super established or a star member of the ASC (or similar), the only jobs available are poop jobs. Which one will only get if one has an in with the producers. I imagine it is like that everywhere, especially with the advent of uber-available DSLRs, RED and like video cameras / desktop editing equipment.

Edited by Saul Rodgar, 05 May 2010 - 01:50 PM.

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#14 Freya Black

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 05:02 PM

Well Phil, we met your "three paid jobs" quota. ;)

Shall I forward your resume?

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Can you put in a word for me too. I really want that job they are advertising for controller of Radio 4 and 7.

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#15 joeldiament

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 05:32 PM

Hey Guys,
Thanks for all the responses. I assumed that it was probably about the same as it is in the US, if not worse due to the smaller scale industry. Looking into it further, it seems like the hardest part would be getting a work permit. It seems as though the only way I could work there (in film or television) would be if I found some free-lance work that paid under the table and just went there as a vacationer. I'll keep working at it, though. Thanks again!
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#16 Richard Boddington

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 05:39 PM

It seems as though the only way I could work there (in film or television) would be if I found some free-lance work that paid under the table and just went there as a vacationer. I'll keep working at it, though. Thanks again!


Well Phil insists there is no paid work, so just work for free and you won't need a work permit.

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#17 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 07:32 PM

This must be the third or fourth American we've had wander by here, dimly unaware of the phrase "work permit".

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#18 joeldiament

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 08:29 PM

Yeah, yeah Phil-- I knew you needed a work permit, just not how strict the regulations are on getting one.
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#19 Richard Boddington

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 08:37 PM

This must be the third or fourth American we've had wander by here, dimly unaware of the phrase "work permit".

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An American can just say he's a Canadian and he's allowed to work in the UK because Canada is part of the British Commonwealth. I would bet that 90% of UK employers would buy this.

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#20 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 04:10 AM

I tend to disagree - there's quite a lot of strictness about this. The penalties for employing LGMs are huge.

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