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Exactly how did they do the Superman titles?


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#1 Karel Bata

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 06:13 AM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apoat1BQido


I can think of several ways it was done. Obviously motion control is involved. But were there rostrum rigs capable back then of doing this? Or did it involve using a huge rig and shooting lettering several inches tall?

Note that the thickness is greater when not 'zooming' and there's a clear mix from one to the other, so two sets of lettering were used. Back then you had to get it right in camera! :blink:

The end titles were all stuck on black card sitting upright on the studio floor (the long process stage at Pinewood is my guess) and the camera tracks backwards over them. It gave the effect that they are receding physically behind each other (which they are) off into space. A giveaway as to how it was done is that in the distance they start to overlap and the edges of the cards begin to show. It runs for several minutes!

One of my favorite 'real' lettering credits was Doug Trumbull's for Brainstorm in which they tracked while zooming in on model letters so you got that weird change in perspective. was good to see in 70mm in theatres that had it.

Here's how the opening looked in 2006 using CG.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W-XtWob9wo


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#2 Karel Bata

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 06:18 AM

Oh, and here's how they did the opening crawl for Empire Strikes Back

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#3 Liam Howlett

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 12:17 PM

very interesting, always wondered about how they did the Star Wars opening titles, and Superman is interesting to.

While we're on the topic, I'd like to know how Carpenter's The Thing title was done just go to 1:40 mark
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#4 Karel Bata

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 01:20 PM

Looks like it was much the same as how they did the original:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5xcVxkTZzM


I love those stills Tim! So I was wrong? It was Superman 3?

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So they were tiny...

How exactly does slitscreen work? Or should I just google that? :(

Anyhows, I found brainstorm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LVzzdQSc8Q&fmt=18


Imagine that in 70mm!
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#5 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 01:40 PM

Of course, now Red is popular, everything is slit-scanned!



Sorry, couldn't resist it...
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#6 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 02:28 PM

Found a wikipedia on slitscan:

http://en.wikipedia....can_photography

I don't really get it... though I wish I did. Anyone care to try to explain more in detail. I'd love to try this technique out for myself; see what happens.
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#7 Chance Shirley

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Posted 27 May 2010 - 04:56 PM

Re: Carpenter's The Thing... there's an excellent "making of" feature on the DVD, and it covers the creation of the main title. Definitely worth a look for Thing fans.
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Posted 27 May 2010 - 05:52 PM

Thanks for the site Tim. Will read up on it.
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Posted 28 May 2010 - 05:34 AM

Me too.

Meanwhile this is cult viewing among the post houses in Soho (in London!) and used to be handed around on DVD before it appeared on YouTube. I worked with that Brit you see doing the flying in '2010' many years ago in a stage production of Peter Pan starring (wait for it!) Lulu. He supervised the flying, and I was the laser operator - so in effect I was Tinkerbell :lol: Don't tell anyone!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rel7NfI957A&fmt=18


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#10 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 06:23 AM

Darth who?
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#11 Karel Bata

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Posted 28 May 2010 - 06:28 AM

Now you're being silly.
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#12 Karel Bata

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 11:04 AM

Very cheesy titles. Nicely done though. Definitely not CG.

I was told a story by Tim Burrill, Supergirl's producer, that they made the mistake of doing the European launch at Cannes, where it's not the kind of film they really care about, and at the press screening no-one came. :o
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