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#1 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 10:58 AM

I think Stephen Fry has - not unusually, for him - put it better than I ever could:

http://news.bbc.co.u...ts/10326761.stm

This is why nobody buys British TV. Because, and I'm paraphrasing only very slightly, it's all complete shit.
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#2 Brian Dzyak

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 11:26 AM

I think Stephen Fry has - not unusually, for him - put it better than I ever could:

http://news.bbc.co.u...ts/10326761.stm

This is why nobody buys British TV. Because, and I'm paraphrasing only very slightly, it's all complete poop.



Monty Python was funny. For some reason, British dudes dressing up as old housewives is inherently amusing. American guys doing the same thing just doesn't work.

Play your strengths. B)
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#3 Rob Vogt

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 11:32 AM

Obviously he doesn't watch The IT Crowd.
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#4 Richard Boddington

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 01:55 PM

Coronation Street is arguably the most successful show in the history of TV. Find a show that has been running longer and is shown in more countries.

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 02:15 PM

Coronation Street is arguably the most successful show in the history of TV. Find a show that has been running longer and is shown in more countries.

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#6 Richard Boddington

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 03:59 PM

Meet the Press


It's been running longer, yes.

How many countries outside of the USA does it air in?

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 04:23 PM

It's been running longer, yes.

How many countries outside of the USA does it air in?

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There are countries outside the US? Now, I've heard everything.
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#8 Richard Boddington

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 05:00 PM

There are countries outside the US? Now, I've heard everything.


Yep sorry, stupid question on my part. Carry on :D

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#9 Chris Keth

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 11:00 PM

I think Stephen Fry has - not unusually, for him - put it better than I ever could:

http://news.bbc.co.u...ts/10326761.stm

This is why nobody buys British TV. Because, and I'm paraphrasing only very slightly, it's all complete poop.


Interesting you say that. I don't know what this says about me, since it's all complete poop, but I watch more British TV than American. I try not to miss Top Gear, The IT Crowd, Dr. Who, and Torchwood. There are American programs I like and watch but they're all on a "if it's on, great" basis. I don't go out of my way.

Edited by Chris Keth, 16 June 2010 - 11:00 PM.

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#10 Richard Boddington

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:42 AM

Hey Phil, at least there are some British TV shows on US TV.

The only time Canadian shows get a shot at the holy grail of TV (the US market) is when the WGA or SAG goes on strike and the US nets need shows to fill the empty schedule. That's when the US nets look North to see what Canadian shows they can air in the USA. During the last WGA strike Canada was proud to supply the USA with some of its greatest shows.....

1) Willy The Wild Woodchuck

2) Barney The Batty Beaver

3) Re-Runs of Referendum 95 Coverage.

4) Igalogog, Hunter Of The North.

5) The Red Fisher Show.

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PS: I'm guessing NBC will not be replaying the final hockey game from the 2010 Olympics :D
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#11 Brian Dzyak

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 01:44 AM

Hey Phil, at least there are some British TV shows on US TV.

The only time Canadian shows get a shot at the holy grail of TV (the US market) is when the WGA or SAG goes on strike and the US nets need shows to fill the empty schedule. That's when the US nets look North to see what Canadian shows they can air in the USA. During the last WGA strike Canada was proud to supply the USA with some of its greatest shows.....


Our people like to take YOUR ideas/shows and re-imagine them with new Actors. :)
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#12 Richard Boddington

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 10:10 AM

Our people like to take YOUR ideas/shows and re-imagine them with new Actors. :)


That's actually an important point.

America's Got Talent, American Idol, The Office, Who Wants To Be A Millionaire.

Are all British shows, re hashed for US audiences.

The only Canadian show re-hashed for US audiences that I know of is Cold Squad, which became Cold Case in the USA. Except in that instance the Canadian producers where not included in the deal and tried to sue the US producers.

British and Canadian film and TV producers all have the same problem, often they have good ideas, but no money. US producers can take the same show idea and throw a budget ten times the size at the show idea.

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#13 John Sprung

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 01:15 PM

Coronation Street is arguably the most successful show in the history of TV. Find a show that has been running longer and is shown in more countries.


What about Dr. Who?




-- J.S.
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#14 Chris Burke

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 03:41 PM

What we do see of British TV here in the States is usually on PBS or BBC America and in my humble opinion, quite good. I do realize that the vast majority of British TV is not aired here, so perhaps we only see the very best. All the "Mystery" programs or Masterpiece Theatre releases are usually of the highest caliber. A lot of American remakes fail in my eyes. Coupling comes to mind as the best example. Maybe Coupling was strongly influenced by Friends, but the british Coupling was better, much better. Life on Mars, another fine example. Wallander is a great mini series. Can't wait for Torchwood to come back if ever. My opinion has always been that the brits do it better. Granted the US has some great gems for shows; The Wire, Battlestar Galactica, Breaking Bad, Weeds, Califorinacation et cetera. Notice most are all cable shows. Lost is perhaps the last great broadcast show, who knows what will follow. the grass always seems greener on someone else's lawn.
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Posted 18 June 2010 - 02:21 PM

Another Canadian contribution: The Red Green Show
Other notable British programmes: The Two Ronnies; The Rise and Fall of Reginald Perrin; Faulty Towers.
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#16 Richard Boddington

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 03:30 PM

Another Canadian contribution: The Red Green Show


You totally left out Dark Reprieve, gee nice guy. :D

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#17 Thomas James

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Posted 19 June 2010 - 03:10 PM

What about the British TV show "Space 1999" ?
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#18 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 06:05 AM

What about Dr. Who?




-- J.S.


Coronation Street was first broadcast on 9 December 1960, Dr Who on 23 November 1963.

There was a gap for many years from 1990 before the BBC reincarnated (or regenerated?) the doctor in recent years, so far as I'm aware Coronation Street has been non stop.
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#19 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 07:25 AM

I think "SyFy" would do well to pick up Red Dwarf ;)
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#20 Dominic Case

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Posted 20 June 2010 - 07:48 AM

Coronation Street was first broadcast on 9 December 1960, Dr Who on 23 November 1963.

You will note the date of Doctor Who. I believe the first episode was run again a week later because the audience was distracted by tragic events across the water in the US.

You can see it here and hear the original theme music - so much better then because the electromic sounds were new (and analogue!)

Just realised that Coronation Street is 50 years old this year. OMG. Is Ken Barlow still in it?
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