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#1 Ram Shani

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 05:21 AM

hi all

last summer i shoot a feature film in Albania on red one at 4k.

now the editing is finished and the producer want to sand me a copy to see it before it goes to colour correction and printing

i can't be there because i live in Israel(budget )

what do you think is best format to see it on HD

they edited it on MAC cinema

and i have a pc and a quicktime pro

is it best to ask them for :h.264, avi, mpeg, or blue ray?

i know it's not ideal situation but i try to do the best i can:)

i also have red cine so maybe i can make them some first colour correction

any advice will be great

thanks
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#2 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 06:51 AM

Hey Ram, given those options I'd probably go with a Blu-Ray of it, in as high a quality as they can burn it; else perhaps you can get them to shoot it over to you on a hard drive as a ProResHQ or 4:4:4 file? Not ideal, i know, but might work-- also you should perhaps find out who the colorist is and send him some reference stills you've corrected and start a dialogue with him via e mail or what have you so as you both can communicate the proper aesthetic. Also, some TC houses have a video conference ability which means you might be able to be there virtually, I'd ask 'round if yours does.
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#3 Alessandro Machi

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 06:52 AM

This sounds like two separate issues. Issue one is, how can you see the cut as close as possible to the way the cut currently looks.

The second issue is, what can the project be sent to you on so that you might be able to make actually color correct the cut so it looks like the way you would like to see it.

It is possible that one size might not fit all and you might need two different formats of the video to do both of the tasks you desire to do.
I don't have an answer for you but will be curious to see what others have to say.
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#4 Ram Shani

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 07:05 AM

thanks for the tips

i will try to ask them to sand me on hard drive
the problem is i don't have FCP just quicktime player
and i don't think redcine work with prorez
so maybe diffrent format?
they plan to work with a very good place in Hungary
here is the link: http://www.filmlab.hu/
they work with baselight4 and arri laser
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#5 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 07:14 AM

Yeah that dos toughen it up a bit. Honestly I don't know PC codecs well enough to be certain which one will work best for you. I use this program, though, to open up DPX files and I've had it run pro-res files before too; might we worth looking into:

http://djv.sourceforge.net/
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#6 Ram Shani

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 07:35 AM

i tried to download it and install but i guess i am stupid:(

how do i work with it

i need to download the 2 files? the zip one and the exe?
and then what

do you think i can ask them to sand it to me in mxl or any kind of format the redcine can read?

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#7 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 07:42 AM

You'll need to download both of the files, the exe and the zip. Inside of the zip there is documentation on how to install it but I'm pretty sure if you just extract the .zip files to the same folder where you house your exe it should work fine.
as for redcine work, you'd need the source .r3ds for that, wouldn't you?

(edited to remove a weird "file//something or other I must've dragged and dropped by mistake.)
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#8 Ram Shani

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 09:23 AM

second try BINGO:)

but it hardly play my 7d file:(

so what will be with bigger files?
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#9 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 09:35 AM

Depends on the compression used. The more heavily compressed the file is (such as h.264) the worse the performance in my experience. It'll work, though, to see how it looks with a good and proper LUT on it- which ought to be enough to make some choices on color correction. I also find it's histogram very useful.
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#10 Ram Shani

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 12:15 PM

great thanks

so i ask them for DPX OR PROREZ HQ 444?

how wuch hard disk space is needed for 100min ?

again thank you very much for the tips
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