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#1 Robert Houllahan

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 08:16 PM

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DaVinci resolve on OSX for $1K what do people think?

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#2 Saul Rodgar

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 08:52 PM

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DaVinci resolve on OSX for $1K what do people think?

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Like DV, then HDSLRs and non-linear editing, it is a good thing and a bad thing. Good because it gives indies great tools to create and polish great images with very little investment, in a relatively short amount of time. Bad because everyone who has spent millions and countless years acquiring top notch gear and skills now have to compete with everyone and their mothers who are suddenly getting into the business and driving prices WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY down. The revolution is being televised on DIY HDTV apparently.
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#3 Elliot Rudmann

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 11:07 PM

Definitely wouldn't cut it for any serious supervised work, no matter what the talent is in front of the keyboard. Render times and performance would be horrendous. Most agency producers, creative executives, directors/dps already know this, and have developed relationships with talented colorists, the majority of whom use...how do I put this nicely...more professional setups. The Apple Color(ists) don't have as much influence as some think when it comes to bringing down prices; you get what you pay for, and I'd go so far as to claim that the people who are actually paying money to have their work color corrected know this as well. Becoming an established, or dare I say "respected" colorist doesn't really come from working on a "beefed-up" desktop computer with a calibrated Apple Cinema display. Maybe one day it will though? Who knows.

For independent work where time really isn't an issue, and a proper color session can't be afforded, programs like Apple Color and Davinci's and Filmlight's OSX software bundles are a great alternative.
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#4 Robert Houllahan

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 08:50 AM

Definitely wouldn't cut it for any serious supervised work, no matter what the talent is in front of the keyboard. Render times and performance would be horrendous.



I think the $1k is a bit of a confusing figure, you still have to get a Quadro card ($1.8k) and a mac pro with storage etc. Also anyone who is serious about doing colorist work would not be using a apple display for this. We have a 8-core mac with 12Tb and a panasonic 11uk plasma attached SDI running Color (buggy) with the euphonix panels. This machine running Resolve with the Nvidia Quadro card is more or less equal in CPU/GPU performance to a Baselight-1. So the $1k becomes $14k pretty fast but it should be a very workable machine for 2K work.


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#5 Chris Durham

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 10:07 AM

Don't forget professional control surfaces. Tangent Wave is nice, but definitely indie gear - not something you want in your arsenal when you're hanging out your shingle as a Pro.
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#6 Elliot Rudmann

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 10:30 AM

Yeah the accessories certainly add up, and the performance might be comparable to the high end systems if you sink enough money into it. I was speaking more about the amateur field of color correction, like those freelance editors who call themselves an Editor AND Colorist, it just makes me laugh. The panel is also something of concern, how fast/easily can you switch between layers, add shapes, adjust and track those shapes, conform projects with JL Coopers and Euphonix compared to the "surfboard" panels? Personally I don't know, but speed (and capability, or the illusion of capability, haha) is something of great importance here when people are paying good money to sit behind you.
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#7 Robert Houllahan

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 10:44 AM

Panels...

I have the DaVinci network panels on our Y-Front/DUI and certainly the Euphonix or the Wave is nothing but a joke compared to the better panels. I could take the center Joyball network panel (or any of the three) and smash a Wave or MC-Color to smithereens with it and put it back without a so much as a scratch or dent.

That said the DaVinci panels for resolve are only $30K so for about $45k without monitoring you have a single GPU Resolve that after a few jobs can be turned into a multi GPU Linux machine, pretty cool if you are serious about grading.

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#8 Mihai Nicolau

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 06:01 PM

I was thinking about buying a Wave for a starting low budget panel. Is it so bad ?
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#9 Keith Mottram

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 11:00 AM

I was thinking about buying a Wave for a starting low budget panel. Is it so bad ?


I've graded 5 docs and numerous short form on a Wave and I like it, though it is on the plastic side of things and not as nice as one that costs £20,000 more! basically if you have a good eye then the only thing that you gain from the big boy panels is speed.
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#10 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 12:06 PM

. Becoming an established, or dare I say "respected" colorist doesn't really come from working on a "beefed-up" desktop computer with a calibrated Apple Cinema display


Oh certainly not.

Becoming an established or respected colorist comes from being a despicable flat-cap-wearing Tarquin with a free flat in Zone 2 and a degree of unthinking narcissism that can curdle milk at ten paces

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At least round here it does. They're worse than Steadicam operators.

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#11 Robert Houllahan

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 01:15 PM

Fuck I need to get one of those hats and a gold chain... and the panels... by the way I am the best fucking colorist in the universe and all others are shabby.

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#12 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 07:50 PM

There you go, you've got it!
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#13 Robert Houllahan

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 09:05 PM

There you go, you've got it!



I didn't say you could talk to me, you clearly don't know anything about color, if you want to speak to me talk to my 21 year old blonde assistant.

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#14 Robert Houllahan

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 09:08 PM

And don't try to Fuck her either. Only the Colorist gets to fuck the assistants and the interns in this cult.

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 03:49 PM

how we digress...

I've got a Resolve on MAC with a nice plastic wave panel. how do you lock the points on the curve window to tangents OFF when you move them???
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#16 Bruce Greene

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 03:51 PM

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Oh certainly not.

Becoming an established or respected colorist comes from being a despicable flat-cap-wearing Tarquin with a free flat in Zone 2 and a degree of unthinking narcissism that can curdle milk at ten paces

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At least round here it does. They're worse than Steadicam operators.

P


I'm not sure whether I should be offended as a Colorist...or a Steadicam Operator :)
Phil, please describe this cap in more detail so that I can avoid it!
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#17 Bruce Greene

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 10:17 AM

I'm not sure whether I should be offended as a Colorist...or a Steadicam Operator :)
Phil, please describe this cap in more detail so that I can avoid it!


Now I see. I wasn't loading the images when I made my reply. Never mind :)
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#18 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 10:24 AM

A steadicam operator and a colorist?

We have got to meet up at some point!

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#19 Bruce Greene

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 07:33 AM

Phil, I live in LA but I'll be in Moscow till October. Are you near by?
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#20 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 09:44 AM

Well I guess Moscow is nearer London than LA!

I suspect I'll be in LA before you're in London, I'll give you a shout.

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