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#1 Collin Morrison

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Posted 30 December 2010 - 05:13 PM

Say your making a 12 minute film about a girl who love soul music. The director is going for an Amelie look. Mostly indoor scenes that are warm but often dark.

Camera: Panaflex GII 3 perf (67.5ft per min)
Lens: 20-100 Cooke Panazoom and a 14mm panavision super speed

Now the tricky part you hope to shoot between a 7:1 or 8:1 ratio

You have 6 1000ft rolls of Kodak Vision 2 500T 5218 (88mins worth)
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15 Short ends between 200-300ft of Kodak Vision 3 500T 5219 (approximately 66mins)

What do you do?

Just use vision 2?
Use both for the same scenes?
Use vision 3 for certain scenes/moments?
Use the Vision 3 only towards the end of film as we reach the climax.

Let me know what you think.
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Posted 30 December 2010 - 05:42 PM

Say your making a 12 minute film about a girl who love soul music. The director is going for an Amelie look. Mostly indoor scenes that are warm but often dark.

Camera: Panaflex GII 3 perf (67.5ft per min)
Lens: 20-100 Cooke Panazoom and a 14mm panavision super speed

Now the tricky part you hope to shoot between a 7:1 or 8:1 ratio

You have 6 1000ft rolls of Kodak Vision 2 500T 5218 (88mins worth)
and
15 Short ends between 200-300ft of Kodak Vision 3 500T 5219 (approximately 66mins)

What do you do?

Just use vision 2?
Use both for the same scenes?
Use vision 3 for certain scenes/moments?
Use the Vision 3 only towards the end of film as we reach the climax.

Let me know what you think.


Are you sure about the history of the vision 3? I trust sealed cans over short ends.

I personally wouldn't mix the two in the same scene.

If you can get away with it I'd go all vision 2.
Failing that I'd maybe consider using the vision 3 for the start of the film or for certain scenes.

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#3 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 31 December 2010 - 10:22 AM

I'm with Freya,
Use the V3 when and if you need to, not in the same scene. If you need to, it'd be well worth it to buy a few fresh cans if you need them, though. The price of the film stock is relatively cheap compared to the processing and transfer so one might as well make sure the stock will work.
You can also consider getting the short ends tested at the lab. They'll cut off a bit and develop it and tell you how it's holding up.
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