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#21 Andy_Alderslade

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 11:48 AM

Andy , Brian Tufano is a brilliant Lighting Cameraman you are very lucky to have him as a tutor at N.F.T.S i have always loved everything he has shot and remember spending a day with him at Lee Studios at Wembley when he was filming "Quadrophenia" getting the light smoke with a Beegun just right before he was happy to say ok ready .


Hi John, you should drop by and say hello one day. Also Stuart Harris worked a great deal for David Watkins so you will have plenty to chat about!

#22 Jim Carlile

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 11:00 PM

Most British cinematography is bloody awful, because it's underfunded, controlled by producers who have no taste and cripplingly low expectations, and shot by people who have only ever worked under these circumstances. The fact that we'd all prefer things to be different does not change the reality. I didn't say I liked it.
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How can you possibly say that? All week I've been watching on TV everything from the Lindsay Anderson/Ondricek collaborations to all of the 60's B/w geniuses, like Lassally, Morris et. al. Let alone the older generations. Sometimes limits are good.

It's the American work that's lackluster these days. All wide angle lenses and hosepiping, and excessive art direction. Look just like televison shows.

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Posted 11 April 2011 - 02:45 PM

Hey,

I've taken a while to discover what my photographic passion is and I've finally concluded that I want to persue a career in cinematography.

I'm just wondering if there are any Brits / English people here and any outstanding British films with award winning cinematography that you guys have seen and wanna share? My favourite, for quite a while, has been 'Kidulthood'.

I look forward to delving deeper into this world and hearing from people on here!

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#24 Andy Joesoef

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Posted 17 April 2011 - 09:02 AM

Has anyone seen the show about cars on BBC called Top Gear ? I see a lot of great shots in there.

#25 John Holland

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Posted 17 April 2011 - 11:07 AM

Yes but what a saddo tv programme !

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Posted 17 April 2011 - 11:26 AM

Yes.

But in a hilarious way. They have no idea what terrible nerds they are.

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Posted 24 June 2011 - 07:35 AM

as far as British Cinematographers, I greatly admire Geoffrey Unsworth, his images of 2001 to Superman con't to inspire me every time I watch.....Roger Deakins for his magnificent work on Shawshank to even Thunderheart were terrific.....

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Posted 24 June 2011 - 09:31 AM

Yes but what a saddo tv programme !


Why? I find it massively entertaining.

#29 John Holland

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Posted 24 June 2011 - 09:45 AM

This an old thread i maybe should have said saddo presenters . Clarkson is the worst .

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Posted 24 June 2011 - 12:10 PM

It is.

It's sort of darkly hilarious. On one hand, I stand by "they have no idea what terrible nerds they are"; on the other hand, I think they know exactly what they're doing as regards comedy and frankly adventure. It's the only show on TV, other than straight travelogues, that emphasises any sort of intrepidity.

I mean, "three men in a boat go to venice" or whatever it's called is beautifully photographed and the three presenters (subjects?) are entertaining, but it's painfully obviously a huge production-company setup from end to end. OK, so is Top Gear, but they play it better.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 03:19 PM

Phil Rhodes,

I think you need to expand your argument rather than just state British films look awful, and why other films are superior? Please cite some films and discuss why because otherwise your righteous views should be considered just that.



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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:29 AM

Strangely I find myself agreeing with both sides to a great extent. I think there are a lot of really amazing cinematographers in this country, a lot of them struggling to get by. At the same time tho, you do see some shocking looking stuff at times, both on TV and in low budget films. Sometimes I can't account for it beyond, they must have wanted it to look like that for some reason.

 

Also there is a TV series on right now on the BBC that I kind of like. Visually it looks like a really cheap digibeta production (might be being kind here), there are problems with the directing, and very often the story line seems to have holes in it that you kind of have to ignore, it's all rather far fetched anyway which helps with the ignoring stuff bit. However it does have some things going for it and it also has some kind of magic in there. I've been quite impressed with it and thought it was a great testament to what can be knocked together on a budget of about 10p and can still really work!

 

...only I just found out what the actual budget supposedly is the other day. Apparently £3 million for 13 half hour episodes. Probably works out at about $1 million U.S. dollars an hour. I'm still in shock about this. I imagine that the people making the programme don't care much about the visuals really and poor digibeta guy is working hard to make good of a bad situation Like a lot of what is happening in the UK, I just don't know what to say. It's always stuff that makes you gasp.

 

Which brings me neatly to the fact that Seamus McGarvey just missed out on the cinematography BAFTA, not to skyfall (which in itself would be plain wrong) but to "Life Of Pi". Although to be fair the latter film does feature very impressive and beautiful shots of a tiger. Doesn't that tell you something about the attitude we have here?

 

There are basically just really fundamental things wrong with this country. It's been like that a long time. Hopefully it will change soon.

 

Freya



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Posted 27 February 2013 - 09:39 AM

My current favorite DP (doing work right now), is Sean Bobbitt. His work on Hunger and Shame is absolutely outstanding. I hope Place Beyond The Pines will be good. 



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Posted 27 February 2013 - 11:17 AM

My all time favourite

 



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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:56 PM


How can you possibly say that? All week I've been watching on TV everything from the Lindsay Anderson/Ondricek collaborations to all of the 60's B/w geniuses, like Lassally, Morris et. al. Let alone the older generations. Sometimes limits are good.

It's the American work that's lackluster these days. All wide angle lenses and hosepiping, and excessive art direction. Look just like televison shows.

 

What is "Hosepiping"?



#36 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 02:55 AM

The meaning I get from it is to repeatedly pan back and forth between two subjects, but I'm not particularly aware of it being common at the moment.



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Posted 25 March 2013 - 03:53 PM

Strangely I find myself agreeing with both sides to a great extent. I think there are a lot of really amazing cinematographers in this country, a lot of them struggling to get by. At the same time tho, you do see some shocking looking stuff at times, both on TV and in low budget films. Sometimes I can't account for it beyond, they must have wanted it to look like that for some reason.

 

Also there is a TV series on right now on the BBC that I kind of like. Visually it looks like a really cheap digibeta production (might be being kind here), there are problems with the directing, and very often the story line seems to have holes in it that you kind of have to ignore, it's all rather far fetched anyway which helps with the ignoring stuff bit. However it does have some things going for it and it also has some kind of magic in there. I've been quite impressed with it and thought it was a great testament to what can be knocked together on a budget of about 10p and can still really work!

 

...only I just found out what the actual budget supposedly is the other day. Apparently £3 million for 13 half hour episodes. Probably works out at about $1 million U.S. dollars an hour. I'm still in shock about this. I imagine that the people making the programme don't care much about the visuals really and poor digibeta guy is working hard to make good of a bad situation Like a lot of what is happening in the UK, I just don't know what to say. It's always stuff that makes you gasp.

 

Which brings me neatly to the fact that Seamus McGarvey just missed out on the cinematography BAFTA, not to skyfall (which in itself would be plain wrong) but to "Life Of Pi". Although to be fair the latter film does feature very impressive and beautiful shots of a tiger. Doesn't that tell you something about the attitude we have here?

 

There are basically just really fundamental things wrong with this country. It's been like that a long time. Hopefully it will change soon.

 

Freya

Well, there are only two dozen shots of a real tiger in the whole movie, the rest are digital. I don't know if those 24 or 25 cuts are the impressive beautiful ones or not though. My guess is that PI -- which I haven't yet seen -- is an accomplishment in terms of making piecemeal vfx-heavy filmmaking seamless, without distracting from the artistry and mood.

 

That should have given it an edge over SKYFALL, which I found to be an infuriatingly stupid, wrongheaded mess that has effectively ended decades of Bond admiration (Roger Moore era excepted, along with this short thug they've got in the tuxedo now) that dates back to age 4 for me. 

 

Maybe somebody should have the tiger from PI duke it out with the CG komodo dragons from SKYFALL. Winner gets to eat the rest of Daniel Craig's face off, along with the hands of John Logan, to keep him from doing any more 'creative typing' that he passes itself off as screenwriting.