Jump to content


Photo

bell and howell 200T magazine camera


  • Please log in to reply
3 replies to this topic

#1 Richard Tuohy

Richard Tuohy
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 482 posts
  • Other
  • Daylesford, Australia

Posted 29 March 2011 - 07:39 AM

Hello all,
amongst my collection of cameras I have the Russian Kiev 16 C-3. It is a copy of the Bell and Howell 200T. It is the smallest 16mm camera I know of and possibly a great traveling camera. I had assumed however that the lenses were c-mount. Turns out they are bigger than that.
So I'd like to find out if the original Bell and Howell 200T cameras are also not c-mount, or if this is a point of difference between the russian copy and the original.
Also, according to the Wiki article on the 200EE the kodak magazines require double per film. This is odd as the russian cartridges that came with the Kiev seem to work with single perf film. Can anyone confirm wether the kodak magazines do indeed require double perf or if there are some that do and some that don't or just what the situation is.
many thanks,
richard
  • 0

#2 Charles MacDonald

Charles MacDonald
  • Sustaining Members
  • 1157 posts
  • Other
  • Stittsville Ontario Canada

Posted 29 March 2011 - 07:23 PM

Russian Kiev 16 C-3. It is a copy of the Bell and Howell 200T.
So I'd like to find out if the original Bell and Howell 200T cameras are also not c-mount,


The magazine load filmos that I have (just marked 16mm Magazine Camera 200) use a c-mount. in fact I swiped one of the lenses to fill out the turret on my 70DR


Also, according to the Wiki article on the 200EE the kodak magazines require double per film. This is odd as the russian cartridges that came with the Kiev seem to work with single perf film. Can anyone confirm wether the kodak magazines do indeed require double perf


I have opened a couple of The Kodak mags up. There is a central sprocket that is double perf. The film passes that sprocket twice and the sprocket runs part of the mechanism..
  • 0

#3 Richard Tuohy

Richard Tuohy
  • Basic Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 482 posts
  • Other
  • Daylesford, Australia

Posted 29 March 2011 - 09:49 PM

Thanks charles,
so the russian cartridges are different form the Kodak ones. Curious, but handy.
and the russian copy has a different mount to the Bell and Howell. Curious, but handy that the B & H is a c-mount.
cheers,
richard
  • 0

#4 Philippe Lignieres

Philippe Lignieres
  • Basic Members
  • PipPip
  • 65 posts
  • Director

Posted 13 February 2015 - 08:21 AM

Hi Richard,

found that old post.

I am very interseted too in these little autoload 200.

I learn here that Kiev magazines are single perf and fit the Bell & Howell.

Did you used your Kiev, and reloaded magazines by your own ?

I know that reloading 200 magazines is a bit tricky, perhaps easier with the Kiev's ?

Cheers,

Philippe

(Sète/France)


  • 0


Glidecam

Broadcast Solutions Inc

Abel Cine

Technodolly

Visual Products

Media Blackout - Custom Cables and AKS

Rig Wheels Passport

Wooden Camera

Willys Widgets

Ritter Battery

FJS International, LLC

CineLab

Gamma Ray Digital Inc

rebotnix Technologies

Aerial Filmworks

Paralinx LLC

New Pro Video - New and Used Equipment

CineTape

Tai Audio

Metropolis Post

The Slider

Rig Wheels Passport

FJS International, LLC

Tai Audio

CineTape

Abel Cine

Wooden Camera

The Slider

Media Blackout - Custom Cables and AKS

Glidecam

Willys Widgets

CineLab

Aerial Filmworks

Ritter Battery

Metropolis Post

Broadcast Solutions Inc

Gamma Ray Digital Inc

New Pro Video - New and Used Equipment

Technodolly

Paralinx LLC

Visual Products

rebotnix Technologies