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Sony's New F65 - 8K 20M-Pixel CMOS imager


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#1 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 11 April 2011 - 12:43 AM

Sony's new toy.

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It's called the F65.

Saw it projected today. Compared to HD, from forty feet away from a twenty foot screen, could you tell the difference?

Errr no.

Oh well.
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#2 Vincent Sweeney

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Posted 11 April 2011 - 01:37 AM

Phil, you need to go to 5K to see any benefits from that far away. ;)

Of course since the new Sony has an 8K sensor, it'll still be fine when the upgrades to theater screens comes and 70ft. heights are the new standard.
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#3 K Borowski

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Posted 11 April 2011 - 10:55 AM

Blah blah blah. Let's get 4K Projectors before we go throwing around 8K cameras (well, except for IMAX, 70mm 5-perf. etc.) BTW. This is an unpopular thing to say, but, you can fit more than 4K worth of information onto pesky old 35mm print stock. (Camera stock is another matter unless you're talking about 50- or 64D stocks.)
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#4 Phil Rhodes

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Posted 11 April 2011 - 07:10 PM

Well, it's not strictly an 8K camera. It has an 8K bayer pattern sensor (or is it actually Bayer? I'd have to check, actually).

In any case, it's subsampled, so they've decided to be honest and output it at 4K. This is good.

Demos were projected from Sony SXRD (basically, LCOS) 4K projectors.
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#5 John Sprung

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Posted 12 April 2011 - 03:23 PM

It has an 8K bayer pattern sensor (or is it actually Bayer? I'd have to check, actually).


It's their new pattern, Bayer rotated 45 degrees. They call it "Q67" -- or at least they did last year when they talked about it at VTP. Seems like a good idea, unless your movie is about chain link fences.... ;-)

We need to come up with a name for it, maybe diagonal Bayer? Of course, it's not really corner to corner.... Rotated Bayer?




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#6 Tristan Noelle

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 04:54 PM

Have they mentioned the absolute size of the sensor or what lenses will work on it? Maybe I'm a bit thick but I couldn't find anything on Sony's website.

Edited by Tristan Noelle, 20 April 2011 - 04:56 PM.

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#7 Adrian Sierkowski

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 05:08 PM

I believe it's Super-35mm sized, hence any good old cine lens should work.
Actually, given the pixel count, and if it is a Super35mm sensor, I wonder what'll happen DR wise...
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#8 John Sprung

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 12:07 AM

I believe it's Super-35mm sized, hence any good old cine lens should work.


That's correct. The question was asked at their pre-NAB show at VTP. The use of "65" had some people worried that it would need bigger glass.




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#9 Mitch Gross

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 01:20 PM

Super-35. The sensor is 24.7mm x 13.1mm, requiring an image circle just shy of 28mm.
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