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#1 Gregg MacPherson

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 09:20 PM

I have a chance to buy a set of Zeiss MKI superspeeds 9.5mm, 16mm, 25mm in Arri B mount and separately, a Cooke 10.4-52 /T2.8 zoom in PL mount. All in quite good condition I think and at very good prices. These will probably be used on some short films or if I really bust out, maybe an indie feature.

I'm looking for some ideas on intercutting between these lenses. The general opinion I have heard elswhere is that the Zeiss are more clinical and cool looking, the Cooke zoom is warmer and photographs skin tones beatifully (but I never used one yet). If there was a lot of intercutting between the Zeiss primes and Cooke zoom are we adding a lot of time, difficulty or cost to post production?

I'm maybe returning to film making after being completely away from it for 15 years or so. I'm upgrading from the Angenieux 12-120 and Arri Schneider primes I used to use. From limited experience back then, the Zeiss (MK I I thnk) primes intercut well with a Zeiss 10-100 zoom, it might have been a T3. Some nice standard 16 Zeiss 10-100 T3 zooms are coming on the market now quite cheap. Maybe this is still very usefull above a focal length of 20mm or whatever.

Can you compare these lenses according to the apparent sharpness, contrast and the colour?

- Cooke 10.4-52 /T2.8
- Zeiss 10-100 T2
- Zeiss 10-100 T3

Does the S16 conversion alter the properties (sharpness, contrast, colur) of either of these Zeiss zooms?

Too many questions I know.
Feel free to answer just a part of it.

Cheers
Gregg

Edited by Gregg MacPherson, 11 June 2011 - 09:22 PM.

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#2 Brian Drysdale

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 04:07 AM

The Zeiss zooms aren't quite as sharp after the conversion to Super 16, at least mine wasn't.
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#3 Gregg MacPherson

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 06:54 PM

The Zeiss zooms aren't quite as sharp after the conversion to Super 16, at least mine wasn't.



Hey Brian,
I probably am getting the Cooke 10.4-52 T2.8.
I'm thinking of getting a nice standard 16 Zeiss 10-100 T3 and just using it above the focal lengths that can't cover S16.
Mostly as a longer length vari-focal rather than zoom.

Cheers
Gregg.

Edited by Gregg MacPherson, 12 June 2011 - 06:56 PM.

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